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J&J ordered to pay $572 million to the state of Oklahoma

Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by tygeray
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
752 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:39 pm
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“An Oklahoma judge on Monday ordered Johnson & Johnson to pay over $572 million for pushing doctors to prescribe opioids while downplaying the risks of addiction, actions that state prosecutors said helped fuel the state's opioid epidemic andled to more than 6,000 deaths over nearly two decades.”

Well this can open up Pandora’s box!
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:41 pm to
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Well this can open up Pandora’s box!



I hope it does.

There was a lot of ethically abhorrent behavior from major corporations and individual doctors alike.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178330 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:41 pm to
Why does the state get the money? It's not like they'll do anything but waste or embezzle it.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
22073 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Oklahoma judge on Monday ordered Johnson & Johnson to pay over $572 million


That’s gonna buy a lot of meth!
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Why does the state get the money? It's not like they'll do anything but waste or embezzle it.



Hopefully the judge ensures it goes to substance abuse prevention and treatment.

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178330 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Hopefully the judge ensures it goes to substance abuse prevention and treatment.


Oklahoma.. one of the shittiest and poorest states. They'll get right on spending that money the right way.
Posted by B1rdman15
The Office
Member since Feb 2010
5211 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:44 pm to
Hasn't it already been opened? Purdue Pharma is already involved in a lawsuit in Kentucky for pushing opioids. shite they declared bankruptcy because the family KNOWS they are fricked.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:44 pm to
How the frick is it J&J's fault that docs prescribe them at will?
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19955 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:46 pm to
It will probably get appealed down, I think the original number was around $17B so $572M shows the plantiff's case is substantially weaker than they thought.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
21277 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:50 pm to
I am a little torn on this.

Big Pharma has way too much power in this country. They have certainly played a part in being legal dope pushers.

Edited because what I was trying to say is that I am for open markets and big pharm is filling a market demand with their drugs and there is nothing wrong with that.

The problem is they carry a heavy political influence.
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 4:13 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:52 pm to
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How the frick is it J&J's fault that docs prescribe them at will?



I'm not sure in this exact case, but other cases the corporations spent millions on propaganda telling doctors and patients alike that the drugs were non-addictive or less addictive than they really were. They also didn't track or didn't care that certain distributors, pharmacies, and doctors were selling/prescribing far more pills than they should.

Doctors are responsible, but not solely.
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38229 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:54 pm to
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ut I don’t like private companies being targeted from the courts.


Is this your first week in the USA? This has been happening for forever.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45520 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:56 pm to
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Johnson & Johnson


Phew, when I read the title I thought this was about J&J Exterminating. A ruling like that would have damn near but those baws out of business.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6176 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 3:59 pm to
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Oklahoma.. one of the shittiest and poorest states. They'll get right on spending that money the right way.


Oklahoma not even in the top 10
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 4:01 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
178330 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:02 pm to
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Oklahoma not even in the top 10


Oklahoma is the 8th poorest by income. And very shitty. Tons of white trash and indians.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37672 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:02 pm to
The company made billions in profits pushing drugs that they knew were dangerous while outright lying about the risks. Financial penalties are okay but if you want real changes in behavior the people at the top of the company should serve long stretches in federal prison
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:04 pm to
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But I don’t like private companies being targeted from the courts.


Come again? This is exactly what the system is for. These companies knowingly lied and purposefully misled to push the bottom line. Justice would be dissolving the company, albeit unfair to the workers that weren't involved.

Why is it when a person commits a crime on here a large segment of the board wants them locked up for life, yet when a corporation does something on the global scale, it's not fair?

(Not necessarily aimed at this commentor or poster specifically. Just a general question.)
This post was edited on 8/26/19 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62212 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:08 pm to
And yet food companies go untouched poisoning every American with HFCS and GMO's.










Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4556 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:09 pm to
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Why is it when a person commits a crime on here a large segment of the board wants them locked up for life, yet when a corporation does something on the global scale, it's not fair?
Obligatory "did the company shove the pill down your throat" argument.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/26/19 at 4:12 pm to
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Obligatory "did the company shove the pill down your throat" argument.


I think you're being sarcastic, right?
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