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re: It's Time for the Scientific Community to Admit We Were Wrong About COVID, It Cost Lives
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:46 pm to mdomingue
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:46 pm to mdomingue
quote:Did you notice this trend after Trump?
All the anti-vaxxers I know are right wingers. Of course I am right wing and work in a predominantly right wing industry so it makes sense that they would be the bulk of folks I know,
I'm genuinely curious. Bc, from my recollection, that's when it seemed to happen. Growing up, I always remembered the left for being the loony people about vaccines, now it seems it's opposite.
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:49 pm to Rabby
The kids staying home was a bad move, and yeah the mask most people wore didn’t do shite, decent points. But you are complaining the American Government overreacted???
Do they even teach history anymore? When in American history have we not overreacted? We invaded and overthrew a sovereign country after 9-11 which not only had nothing to do with the attack but was a sworn enemy of Al quata.
We exist as a sovereign country because we overreacted to a tea tax and some military rules. Overreaction is as American as baseball and apple pie.
Winston Churchill once famously stated something like “The Americans never react to any possible threat, the overreact to every threat”
We are a nation of overreaction
Do they even teach history anymore? When in American history have we not overreacted? We invaded and overthrew a sovereign country after 9-11 which not only had nothing to do with the attack but was a sworn enemy of Al quata.
We exist as a sovereign country because we overreacted to a tea tax and some military rules. Overreaction is as American as baseball and apple pie.
Winston Churchill once famously stated something like “The Americans never react to any possible threat, the overreact to every threat”
We are a nation of overreaction
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:50 pm to saint tiger225
Trump didn't force the vax on people. Biden and his admin, including corporations, who I had a first hand seat watching them "evolve" from when it was a govt mandate to when it got blocked, to being "for the clients". I got a religious exemption.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:52 pm to USMEagles
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USMEagles
That is from 2021.
RIP Jovita.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:59 pm to saint tiger225
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Did you notice this trend after Trump?
I'm genuinely curious. Bc, from my recollection, that's when it seemed to happen. Growing up, I always remembered the left for being the loony people about vaccines, now it seems it's opposite.
I noticed a lot more after Trump but I really only knew a couple before covid. I am also a non denominational Christian and there are a lot of people in those circles that are relatively anti-medical industry/very pro alternative medicines. A lot of "oily" people (essential oil proponents) too. Many of them didn't express those anti-vax sentiments prior so I may have known more than I realized.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:01 pm to GumboPot
They intentionally murdered millions by withholding IVM & HCQ and then used horse paste propaganda to make others reject it even if they had access to it and manipulated people into getting a social experiment injection.
History won’t be kind to many people.
History won’t be kind to many people.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:04 pm to mdomingue
Thanks for the response. 
I think it's an interesting mindset. I'll preface this by saying I voted for Trump in 2016. However, his hardcore supporters quickly turned cult like and it's been a weird thing to witness.
But, Trump knows what he's doing. That's why he says the things he does. He knows it'll give him the audience he wants - people that'll back him no matter what.
I think it's an interesting mindset. I'll preface this by saying I voted for Trump in 2016. However, his hardcore supporters quickly turned cult like and it's been a weird thing to witness.
But, Trump knows what he's doing. That's why he says the things he does. He knows it'll give him the audience he wants - people that'll back him no matter what.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:06 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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intentionally murdered millions by withholding IVM & HCQ
Another question, whatever happened with those?
Or was that just another thing said that was bullshite?
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:09 pm to mjthe
quote:I have no dog in this fight. I think they've both been embarrassments for our nation. For different reasons, obviously.
Trump didn't force the vax on people. Biden and his admin, including corporations, who I had a first hand seat watching them "evolve" from when it was a govt mandate to when it got blocked, to being "for the clients". I got a religious exemption.
Biden is certainly a POS for forcing those mandates. I'm glad you were able to get an exemption.
That said, Trump did just about everything wrong. His mouth got him in a lot of trouble, like it does.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:10 pm to saint tiger225
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:13 pm to saint tiger225
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Thanks for the response.
It was a reasonable question and not couched in vitriol.
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I think it's an interesting mindset. I'll preface this by saying I voted for Trump in 2016. However, his hardcore supporters quickly turned cult like and it's been a weird thing to witness.
I feel the same way. I voted for Trump twice. I wish Twitter had banned him 2 years earlier, he may have won again if so.
Trump is not a good guy, but as an executive, he was excellent, in my opinion. So he was an effective President as a result.
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But, Trump knows what he's doing. That's why he says the things he does. He knows it'll give him the audience he wants - people that'll back him no matter what.
He is, in some regards, a modern PT Barnum.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:19 pm to saint tiger225
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That's what I'm saying. I thought usually the leftist were anti vax and the right was pro?
Why the sudden change?
Sudden change?
What suddenly changed was the government's articulation of basic science of the past, treatment of language and approach to us as citizens rather than subjects.
When actual credible vaccines were a proven effective method of preventing disease without significant risk of harm - many people were all for them whether they tended to lean right or left.
Your problem is that you try to cast such things along ideological lines when they are not logically connected to either ideology.
Some of us follow what we see as truth in things on an issue by issue basis rather than in lockstep with a herd.
When your government changes the definition of the word vaccine to argue that it is as legit as real vaccines, there is a huge red flag. I balked - no apology.
When the government indemnifies big pharma companies for an experimental drug which those companies then make outrageous profit, some of us started scratching our heads. The past blunder of thalidomide comes to our brains.
When your government has to coerce employees to accept a vax or risk termination, there is a problem on multiple levels.
When the government leans on its social media toadies to stifle dissent, there is a huge warning.
Both Trump and Biden lost credibility during this situation. They both stumbled in my view.
If you were not concerned, you lack wisdom.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:22 pm to GumboPot
I read this last night and initially was pleased to see it, but on further reflection, he and everyone else can go f themselves with these weak arse apologies.
They ruined the world as we knew it and tried to get us all in the fricking bread line. frick them and the horse they rode in on.
They ruined the world as we knew it and tried to get us all in the fricking bread line. frick them and the horse they rode in on.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:31 pm to saint tiger225
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saint tiger225
get your booster
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:49 pm to Rabby
This x100. I don't socialize with many libs but everyone that I know are pro vax to the max. The right leaning folks I do know are probably 70/30 non vax'd, of the 30% most got it initially for different personal reasons. About half of those are not getting boosters as they have seen the light and are calling BS. Of all those above the only ones they gave a crap about anyone else's vax status are the libs, they would have without a doubt turned in the non-vaxed if asked to.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:32 pm to TutHillTiger
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Do they even teach history anymore? When in American history have we not overreacted? We invaded and overthrew a sovereign country after 9-11 which not only had nothing to do with the attack but was a sworn enemy of Al quata.
There’s a Grand Canyonesque divide between the two. Iraq, Sadam, and WMD’s was a massive lie perpetuated upon the American populace and they reacted to the lie, not the reality. Absolutely no difference between Iraq and the populace’s reaction to Covid, they gobbled it up hook, line, & sinker. When your God given senses and rationality tell you that you’re being lied to, yet you believe the propaganda being shoved down your throat 24/7, in the end that’s on you.
How you hold accountable those that obviously lied to you, that’s on you as well. Personally, I don’t like being fricked in the arse & told to enjoy it. I’m a big boy I can withstand some forced sodomy and still walk around with my head held high. But, you fricked with my child, my family, and my friends and they will burn before I leave this mortal coil.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:37 pm to Grinder
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Grinder
You mistyped your favorite app as your screen name
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:39 pm to UncleRuckus
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I have a better chance of having a 10 inch cock and 20 million dollars than the scientific community admitting their failure during covid
I can't help with the 20 million dollars but I got the first part covered. Dammit this is the OT
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 1/31/23 at 9:41 pm to SuperSaint
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Once the "science" became political, it all went downhill.
read look no further than GumboPots post history.... everything is political
My post are 80% political. That’s why I’m on the PT board most of the time. But why are you calling me out? I didn’t make COVID political.
Posted on 1/31/23 at 11:27 pm to VADawg
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China banned domestic air travel but continued to allow international air travel and no other "world leader" raised an eyebrow about it. This was in early 2020. That should have been the first really big clue that none of this shite was anywhere nearly as bad as media members were hoping it would be.
There's a whole lot of common sense that didn't take place during Covid, the majority of it was by the same people that can't ever seem to use common sense
They're called Dims
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