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re: It's 1943, you're 18 years old, which would terrify you more?

Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Bomber crews had the highest fatality rate if I remember correctly.


If I remember correctly, the 8th alone had some 20k KIA.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:08 pm to
Almost any of them as long as it's not in the Pacific.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:08 pm to
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A. Being assigned as a ball turret gunner on a B-17 bomber crew with the 8th. Air Force


The scene in Memphis Belle when they open the door to the ball turret, and it's gone and Sean Astin is just hanging on by his seatbelt
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:09 pm to
At 18 I would have definitely picked A. Just because I would have been in the air. And the idea of being up there shooting down other planes and likely thinking I was untouchable.. It would have been a no brainer.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:10 pm to
Paw paw rouge was 22

He knew how to drive a truck, so they made him an airplane mechanic in the South Pacific

He had the correct "learn to code" skills for the time.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Big Chipper
Charlotte, NC
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:11 pm to
Heading to Canada...
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

If I remember correctly, the 8th alone had some 20k KIA.




Wrong. It was more

quote:

Half of the U.S. Army Air Force's casualties in World War II were suffered by Eighth Air Force (more than 47,000 casualties, with more than 26,000 dead). Seventeen Medals of Honor went to Eighth Air Force personnel during the war.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:12 pm to
Andy Rooney was a correspondent assigned to the 8th AF. He told a story of a damaged bomber coming back to England. The ball turret was damaged and they couldn't get the hatch open to get the guy out and the landing gear was damaged. They had to do a belly land with the ball turret gunner, still alive, under the plane. They were almost out of fuel so they had to crush their friend to death in order to save everyone else.
Posted by deathvalleyfreak43
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:13 pm to
4th SS Volunteer Panzergrenadier Brigade Nederland
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:14 pm to
Grandpa Boo was in the 17th airborne and he made it home alive... so can I pick that one?
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:14 pm to
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They had to do a belly land with the ball turret gunner, still alive, under the plane. They were almost out of fuel so they had to crush their friend to death in order to save everyone else.


Thanks for the nightmare tonight
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74568 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Half of the U.S. Army Air Force's casualties in World War II were suffered by Eighth Air Force (more than 47,000 casualties, with more than 26,000 dead). Seventeen Medals of Honor went to Eighth Air Force personnel during the war.



To put that into perspective, the total number of Marines killed in WWII was just under 20,000.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Andy Rooney was a correspondent assigned to the 8th AF. He told a story of a damaged bomber coming back to England. The ball turret was damaged and they couldn't get the hatch open to get the guy out and the landing gear was damaged. They had to do a belly land with the ball turret gunner, still alive, under the plane. They were almost out of fuel so they had to crush their friend to death in order to save everyone else.

poets.org - "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" by Randall Jarrell
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75916 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:20 pm to
E. Being 18 in 2019 - facing the oppression of: white privilege, a racist president, and living in a fascist hateful country.


This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 1:21 pm
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:24 pm to
Yeah, I read that in Masters of the Air. Plane was all shot to shite and no landing gear. Big discussion on the radio about what to do. I think I remember it lasting 8 minutes, which Andy Rooney said felt like an eternity. Terrible story.

In 1943, the 8th was taking such a beating from the Luftwaffe and flak, your odds of surviving your 25 missions was remote. In 1944, after the Luftwaffe was marginalized, but not defeated, they raised the mission requirement to 30, and then 35. It was an extremely high risk occupation.
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5923 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:24 pm to
A for many would not even be an option. If I remember correctly you couldn't be over 5'9" or so due to how small the ball turret was. Talk about getting frick twice in life. 1 for being short, and 2 for having your arse shoe horned into that ball of death bc of it.
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
7221 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:25 pm to
I'd take D. Because my uncle was a tank commander in the 3rd Armored.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
9286 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:25 pm to
I'd have to say.. THis would kinda suck.. Not to mention even if I didn't take a direct hit... That Live in Fame go down in Flame part kinda rings really true.



Posted by mikelbr
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:27 pm to
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C. Being assigned to the 101st Airborne Div. as an Infantryman



Didn't Airborne Pay a good bit more than the rest? And it was tougher to achieve.
I would have tried for that at 18 yrs old when really fit and fulla the piss.

Most Terrifying would have been the gunner on a B-17.
This post was edited on 6/14/19 at 1:28 pm
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19886 posts
Posted on 6/14/19 at 1:29 pm to
Another thing about the ball turret: if the plane is hit and is going down, is there even a way for that guy to bail out with a parachute?
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