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Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:50 pm to Ry_garou
Some differences between the US and Italy.
Healthcare:
US has 3x the critical care beds per capita.
Population density:
Italy has 5x
Mass transit uasge:
No good stats, but at bare minimum Italy has 5x usage
Cultural:
Fewer nursing homes. Meaning elderly relatives live and intermingle with more younger relatives.
More touchy, feely. Even mild acquaintances greet each other with hugs and kisses on the cheeks (RIP South Louisiana?)
Elderly population:
US population is 15% over 65. Italy is 23% over 65
Healthcare:
US has 3x the critical care beds per capita.
Population density:
Italy has 5x
Mass transit uasge:
No good stats, but at bare minimum Italy has 5x usage
Cultural:
Fewer nursing homes. Meaning elderly relatives live and intermingle with more younger relatives.
More touchy, feely. Even mild acquaintances greet each other with hugs and kisses on the cheeks (RIP South Louisiana?)
Elderly population:
US population is 15% over 65. Italy is 23% over 65
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:51 pm to ehidal1
quote:
Is their average age of the deceased still 81?
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:54 pm to TH03
quote:
Let's see numbers on the regular flu. I hear it's worse.
Same town in Italy, obituary section from center of flu season Feb 9th vs obituary section last Friday
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:56 pm to Volvagia
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Same town in Italy, obituary section from center of flu season Feb 9th vs obituary section last Friday
Looks like people die in alphabetical order in Italy too
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:57 pm to Volvagia
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This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:58 pm to deeprig9
quote:
Without Cv19, 860 per 100,000 per day in USA per cdc. That's just the normal number of deaths per day for any reason.
LINK
Let's apply those numbers to Italy.
60,000,000 div by 100,000 = 600,000.
860 deaths per hundred thousand = 5160 deaths per day in Italy.
Your math is a little off.
Italy's death rate is about 10.5 per 1,000 per year. With a population of 60 million, that is 630,000 deaths per year, or 1,726 per day.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 5:59 pm to Korkstand
I like how he took one of the most unhealthy populations in the world as a baseline. 
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:00 pm to deeprig9
quote:
Without Cv19, 860 per 100,000 per day in USA per cdc. That's just the normal number of deaths per day for any reason.
You really think almost 1% of the population dies PER DAY in the USA?
Imagine posting all that shite and not having enough common sense to realize how full of shite your entire post is.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:08 pm to Volvagia
quote:Well Italy's death rate is higher than ours. Though not because they aren't healthier, they're just older.
I like how he took one of the most unhealthy populations in the world as a baseline.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:15 pm to Korkstand
I mean overall, not CV based
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:20 pm to deeprig9
quote:
Without Cv19, 860 per 100,000 per day in USA per cdc. That's just the normal number of deaths per day for any reason.
860 deaths/day x 365 days/yr = 313,900 deaths per 100,000 people.
It's 860 deaths/YEAR, which comes to 2.35 deaths/day per 100,000. If Italy's number is the same, thats about 1400 deaths/day from ALL causes.
While the total number of deaths in Italy weren't reported, it's safe to say that 400 deaths/day from a new disease is pretty staggering.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 6:21 pm to Volvagia
quote:Yeah me too. Ours is 8.6/k and theirs is 10.5/k.
I mean overall, not CV based
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:42 pm to Korkstand
I don’t think you can use typical annual stats and apply them to this situation. As someone posted there are too many variables. Bottom line is Italy has been under lockdown for over 3+ weeks and this spike still happened (and or is still happening).
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:45 pm to Ry_garou
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:47 pm to LanierSpots
quote:
10% death rate. Yikes
Useless math unless you have a true number of the total infected.
Last I heard Italy was not testing 100% of the population.
10% of "known" infected perhaps...
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:50 pm to ell_13
quote:
There are literally people on this board cheering for higher numbers just so they can justify their panic.
Literally cheering?
Please share.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:51 pm to TheCaterpillar
Scary part is the US has mirrored Italy almost exactly in the timeline. Eeiry
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:53 pm to windshieldman
quote:
It doesn’t matter, the more folks that die the happier these retards get
Counterpoint (from this board) - if you're over 50 or mildly overweight you were basically a goner anyway, good riddance
Posted on 3/15/20 at 7:53 pm to windshieldman
Some people seem to be happy for the deaths so they can reassure their fears.
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