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re: Italian doctor updates how Covid 19 is overwhelming health Care system
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:13 am to Ham And Glass
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:13 am to Ham And Glass
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That's not the point. The point is "but do I deserve to be---that is the question"
And if so, if so, Who answers? Who answers?
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:14 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:26 am to MF Doom
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Why is our "private healhcare" dropping the ball with testing?
Because our government bureaucracy (the CDC and FDA) wouldn't get out of the fricking way.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:26 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:35 am to Arkapigdiesel
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And if so, if so, Who answers? Who answers?
Jeremy?
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:36 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:37 am to JohnnyKilroy
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@scruffy will be here shortly to tell us this is all normal activity for hospitals and its nothing he hasn't seen before.
Well, what is described in the OP isn't happening here, period. At least not yet.
Full stop.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:40 am to MF Doom
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Why is our "private healhcare" dropping the ball with testing?
You're being deliberately obtuse or you are beyond ignorant.
I'm not sure which is worse at this point.
And you "testing" cats better get ready for another talking point - we're about to drown in tests. MILLIONS will be tested in a couple, three weeks. Probably 10s of millions (if this is even a thing) in a month or so. We're going to have so many tests we'll be able to roll around in them.
And either people don't have the disease (which means we've contained it - and contained it early) OR it isn't lethal.
Which one are you guys rooting for?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:40 am to RollTide1987
quote:fify
Reason # 1 we cannot have Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:49 am to Ace Midnight
quote:Both?
And either people don't have the disease (which means we've contained it - and contained it early) OR it isn't lethal.
Which one are you guys rooting for?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:53 am to Volvagia
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If you sum the total number confirmed by all SARS and MERS outbreaks and multiply it by ten, you would just get past the halfway mark of those numbered by CoV-19 as of today.
CoV-19 is considerably less lethal then those two, but makes up for it on how contagious it is.
None of that addresses the number of needed critical care hospitalizations.
ETA:
I’m not trying to be obtuse, I’m genuinely asking.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:55 am to Ace Midnight
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And either people don't have the disease (which means we've contained it - and contained it early) OR it isn't lethal.
I assume you know the results of said millions of tests to make that question reasonable?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:56 am to PearlJam
Hey crazy Bernie this is the type of healthcare delivery system you want....
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:58 am to RollTide1987
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Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
If you think our hospitals here are better prepared you are in for one big surprise.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:59 am to ZULU
Jesus Christ. Have you seen or heard any of the stories about what’s already happening in Nola or in other hot spots around the country?
You think sports and society is being shut down bc we’re super prepared for this thing? The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered
You think sports and society is being shut down bc we’re super prepared for this thing? The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:00 am to EarlyCuyler3
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you think our hospitals here are better prepared you are in for one big surprise.
We are due to a much better network of healthcare.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:01 am to theenemy
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We are due to a much better network of healthcare.
Ask me how I know you don't work in a hospital.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:02 am to tigerfan88
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The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered
It is superior because we have a larger network of public and private healthcare.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:03 am to EarlyCuyler3
quote:Scruffy does and we have a much better network of healthcare.
Ask me how I know you don't work in a hospital.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:05 am to tigerfan88
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The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered
Denial will kick in though. When your whole world view is centered in "our system is superior," reality will get ignored.
If, IF, IFFFFF, it really does get bad here, people are going to be horrified at the state of healthcare. We are stretched fricking thin already. We work short constantly. And this is a major health system.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:06 am to Scruffy
quote:I believe you. Do you think if we fail to contain or slow the spread of this virus, that our health care system could be overwhelmed similar to the description of Italy's system in the op?
have a much better network of healthcare.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:07 am to Scruffy
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Scruffy does and we have a much better network of healthcare.
You think we have enough equipment and staff to keep up though?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:10 am to EarlyCuyler3
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You think we have enough equipment and staff to keep up though?
My understanding is that Italy doesn’t have Urgent Care-type places like the US. Where non-emergent, ill people can get immediate treatment and be on their way.
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