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re: Italian doctor updates how Covid 19 is overwhelming health Care system

Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15773 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:13 am to
quote:

That's not the point. The point is "but do I deserve to be---that is the question"

And if so, if so, Who answers? Who answers?
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:14 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46721 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Why is our "private healhcare" dropping the ball with testing?


Because our government bureaucracy (the CDC and FDA) wouldn't get out of the fricking way.




This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:26 am
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:35 am to
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And if so, if so, Who answers? Who answers?


Jeremy?
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:36 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96254 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:37 am to
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@scruffy will be here shortly to tell us this is all normal activity for hospitals and its nothing he hasn't seen before.



Well, what is described in the OP isn't happening here, period. At least not yet.

Full stop.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96254 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Why is our "private healhcare" dropping the ball with testing?




You're being deliberately obtuse or you are beyond ignorant.

I'm not sure which is worse at this point.

And you "testing" cats better get ready for another talking point - we're about to drown in tests. MILLIONS will be tested in a couple, three weeks. Probably 10s of millions (if this is even a thing) in a month or so. We're going to have so many tests we'll be able to roll around in them.

And either people don't have the disease (which means we've contained it - and contained it early) OR it isn't lethal.

Which one are you guys rooting for?
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27948 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Reason # 1 we cannot have Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
fify
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:49 am to
quote:

And either people don't have the disease (which means we've contained it - and contained it early) OR it isn't lethal.

Which one are you guys rooting for?
Both?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:53 am to
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If you sum the total number confirmed by all SARS and MERS outbreaks and multiply it by ten, you would just get past the halfway mark of those numbered by CoV-19 as of today.

CoV-19 is considerably less lethal then those two, but makes up for it on how contagious it is.


None of that addresses the number of needed critical care hospitalizations.

ETA:

I’m not trying to be obtuse, I’m genuinely asking.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:54 am
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:55 am to
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And either people don't have the disease (which means we've contained it - and contained it early) OR it isn't lethal.


I assume you know the results of said millions of tests to make that question reasonable?
Posted by ZULU
Member since Sep 2009
1014 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:56 am to
Hey crazy Bernie this is the type of healthcare delivery system you want....
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:58 am to
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Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.


If you think our hospitals here are better prepared you are in for one big surprise.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9287 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:59 am to
Jesus Christ. Have you seen or heard any of the stories about what’s already happening in Nola or in other hot spots around the country?

You think sports and society is being shut down bc we’re super prepared for this thing? The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:00 am to
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you think our hospitals here are better prepared you are in for one big surprise.


We are due to a much better network of healthcare.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:01 am to
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We are due to a much better network of healthcare.


Ask me how I know you don't work in a hospital.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:02 am to
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The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered


It is superior because we have a larger network of public and private healthcare.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78045 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:03 am to
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Ask me how I know you don't work in a hospital.
Scruffy does and we have a much better network of healthcare.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:05 am to
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The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered




Denial will kick in though. When your whole world view is centered in "our system is superior," reality will get ignored.

If, IF, IFFFFF, it really does get bad here, people are going to be horrified at the state of healthcare. We are stretched fricking thin already. We work short constantly. And this is a major health system.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:06 am to
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have a much better network of healthcare.
I believe you. Do you think if we fail to contain or slow the spread of this virus, that our health care system could be overwhelmed similar to the description of Italy's system in the op?
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Scruffy does and we have a much better network of healthcare.


You think we have enough equipment and staff to keep up though?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:10 am to
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You think we have enough equipment and staff to keep up though?


My understanding is that Italy doesn’t have Urgent Care-type places like the US. Where non-emergent, ill people can get immediate treatment and be on their way.
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