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re: Italian doctor updates how Covid 19 is overwhelming health Care system

Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:33 am to
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:33 am to
No doubt. The healthcare system in this country is about to get brutal.just watch in two weeks. You think not having TO is an issue just wait.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:33 am to
And yet he wasn't too overwhelmed to collect those stats, wander around the hospital to survey what all departments were doing with patients, and then spend time on social media?

I'm not sure I would want to wake up in the morning to see that my granny's doctor was posting on social media, while she was up in ICU. Maybe that's just me?
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:36 am to
That's a weird take. Assuming his observations are accurate, isn't it the responsible thing to do to take a brief moment to share with other health care professionals what might happen if measures aren't taken to slow the spread of the virus?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78045 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:36 am to
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Who is doing this?
Are you serious?

Even if you completely discount all of the media and their statements of “we have 8-10 days until the entire US medical system collapses”, you have many, many posters on here stating the same thing.

“We haven’t reached the point of no return yet. It is coming and the entire US medical system will collapse under its weight.”

Hell, EarlyCuyler was saying essentially that 1 page back.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:38 am to
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The question is what do we have in our system that they do not? I work in the system, I know how short staffed and stressed and thin things are first hand.


OK...

Do we not have more medical facilities, healthcare professionals, equipment, reaources, etc...

I understand that yall are stretched thin....but I still think we are in much better shape than Italy's system.
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:38 am to
You said "y'all", in reference to people in this thread and in the very same post you asked someone to not move the goalposts. What you described isn't happening here in this thread. Lumping everyone discussing this issue in the "chicken little" camp hurts your credibility.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 11:41 am
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:40 am to
No, I didn't go that far.

I'm just saying that the typical posters that toss around the political talking point of how our system is so superior cause it isn't "hurr durr socialism" are in for a rude awakening. The myth of this private wonderful healthcare system will take quite a beating if that happens.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:42 am to
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to take a brief moment

There is no way in hell that he made all those observations during a "brief moment". And you full well know it.

Those are conclusions based on hours of observations or phone conversations. Hours of not working directly with dying patients.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:43 am to
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I understand that yall are stretched thin....but I still think we are in much better shape than Italy's system.


We may be to an extent. I just tend to get irritated (when I shouldn't) when I see people talking about how we're so much better when they don't obviously deal with it nightly.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32421 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:43 am to
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PearlJam


Yeah, yeah I, oh, I'm still alive


There is over TEN cases here, things are starting to look Black.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77214 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:44 am to
Can’t find a better man than Trump to be in charge right now
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:45 am to
quote:

I'm just saying that the typical posters that toss around the political talking point of how our system is so superior cause it isn't "hurr durr socialism" are in for a rude awakening.


Our system absolutely has some superior qualities. You seem to th No it's all or nothing.

Even Italy still has people with private insurance.
Posted by Tigahs24Seven
Charlie Kirk's America
Member since Nov 2007
15185 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:46 am to
Ah, Commandant....el Doctoro needs to learn to speak German....also he is full of drama....and shite.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 11:47 am to
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There is no way in hell that he made all those observations during a "brief moment". And you full well know it.

Those are conclusions based on hours of observations or phone conversations.
I said a brief moment to share. The observations are almost certainly made during his daily treatment of patients and communications with colleagues. Your attempts at ad hom attacks to discredit the content is weird.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:03 pm to
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to discredit the content is weird.

I'm discrediting the fear that you are attempting to insert here, based on unverifiable claims from a country that has allowed almost 200,000 illegal Chinese to work in their fashion industry. Which has now led to their crisis.
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:13 pm to
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I'm discrediting the fear that you are attempting to insert here
I'm not fearful and not attempting to insert fear. I found the article interesting and informative.

Too many people are trying to politicize every post or comment. Also too many have drawn absolute conclusions about what the effects of this virus are going to be and attempt to shout down any discussion that doesn't align with preconceived notions.

quote:

country that has allowed almost 200,000 illegal Chinese to work in their fashion industry. Which has now led to their crisis.
The virus is here, so how it got to Italy isn't really the point.

Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:21 pm to
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not attempting to insert fear

Only one person on TD typed these words into their thread title:
quote:

overwhelming health Care system
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:24 pm to
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I found the article interesting and informative.


Milan is kind of unique in that the viruses there are highly concentrated and spread via imported Chinese workers.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 12:30 pm to
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Only one person on TD typed these words into their thread title:
quote:
overwhelming health Care system
I clearly stated it was an Italian doctor and it was paraphrased from the title of the article.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17818 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 1:26 pm to
I don't mean to be dismissive of what Italy is going through. I understand they are going through it right now.

But Im kind of tired of hearing about them, this virus is supppsedly worldwide, yet Italy is the only country I hear about. How is the rest of the world doing regarding the virus. Hell, how is China doing outside of Wuhan.
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