re: Italian doctor updates how Covid 19 is overwhelming health Care system

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The idea that some of you have that our healthcare system is so superior to Europe’s bc it’s private is about to be fricking shattered

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And, yet strangely, no important person sneaks out of America in the middle of the night to get treatment in the wonderful, foeign, public health systems.

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2. Limited infection (which means it is contained)

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I think it's fairly clear that this is not the case

Okay.

Be aware I’m completely making up numbers here for illustrative purposes.

Let’s say virus A sends half of those infected to the hospital, but only infects a 100 people?

That’s 50 patients one has to deal with.


Let’s Say virus B sends a tenth of those infected to the hospital, but infects 500k.

That’s 50k patients that the hospital needs to deal with in spite of being clearly the milder illness.


Of what you meationed, SARS hit a global final case count of only 8k. I don’t even remember if it hit the US....but if it did it was only a handful easily absorbed into standing capacity.

Here....keep in mind the entire US has “only” around 100k ICU beds. 50-80k of which is constantly filled dealing with other issues.

Does that answer your question, or am I missing your point?

If it spreads wide in S. Italy, they're screwed. The North has far superior facilities.

Our healthcare system is pretty fricked. We definitely shouldn't be poking fun at other countries

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Then the only other conclusion one can draw is that it is not lethal in the United States. Or, at least it has not been yet.

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Garbage data in = Garbage data out

This isn't an either/or deal. The lack of testing screws numbers of everything. How many could have died of mysterious sudden onset of pneumonia or other respiratory ailments when testing was practically non existent?

This is why testing is important. Leaders and experts NEED good data and they need it ASAP to make the best choices.

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How many could have died of mysterious sudden onset of pneumonia or other respiratory ailments when testing was practically non existent?

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Where are the bodies? Was the flu season 200x as bad as normal this year? Has there been a spike in these sorts of deaths in the absence of other explanations?

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Garbage data in = Garbage data out

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True, but better than bullshite, biased speculation.

Youtube of Italian pride.

Sorry I wasn't trying to speculate on how many may or may not have died, but using that to illustrate my point.

Yes we can look at other things to make inferences and that's better than nothing but cold, hard data is most important and the CDC botched that horribly

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No. I have a functioning human brain. The tests will show:

1. Widespread infection (versus 50 or 60 deaths to this point), or

2. Limited infection (which means it is contained)


What 3rd option is there?

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The data release is lagging or we are still in the early days of the spread?

I'm not sure what you are getting at.