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Italian doctor updates how Covid 19 is overwhelming health Care system

Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:50 am
I found this article interesting. You might as well.

quote:

I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do. First, Lombardy is the most developed region in Italy and has extraordinarily good healthcare.

I have worked in Italy, UK and Austria, and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.

“The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by COVID-19, they are running 200% capacity.

We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ICUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes.

There are hundreds of patients with severe respiratory failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask. Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ICU, I am not saying not tubed (intubated), I’m saying not assessed and no ICU staff attends when they arrest.

Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed. My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they can only offer oxygen.




AL.com article
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Baw Land
Member since Sep 2017
14928 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to
You sure it wasn’t a German doctor reporting on the Rhineland region?
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71733 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to
Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26447 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to
Yeah the U.K. is about to rid their elderly.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41910 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to
quote:

The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by COVID-19, they are running 200% capacity.

We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ICUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes.


@scruffy will be here shortly to tell us this is all normal activity for hospitals and its nothing he hasn't seen before.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:54 am to
Sounds like liberal propaganda.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:55 am to
quote:

@scruffy


I was just thinking how this place needs more douche bags posting like the retard Mr Perfect
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 9:56 am
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
6378 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

PearlJam


Yeah, yeah I, oh, I'm still alive
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:59 am to
I’m not denying that Italian hospitals are overwhelmed. But why weren’t US hospitals overwhelmed with any of the last SARS-like outbreaks that have had similar numbers?
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:00 am to
Could this be a product of Universal healthcare?
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
1745 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:00 am to
That's not the point. The point is "but do I deserve to be---that is the question"
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
6378 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:03 am to
quote:

The point is "but do I deserve to be---that is the question"


And if so, who answers, who answers?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:03 am to
Kinda sorta.

Italy doesn’t have much primary care for whatever reason so basically everyone gets hospitalized if they’re sick.

But a healthcare system getting overwhelmed can happen to anyone in situations like this, just places with more available healthcare are less susceptible to it
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:06 am to
I don't know the answer, but I don't think SARS or MERS were as easily transmitted. I think trusting numbers of confirmed cases with such limited testing is a bit naive, though.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53608 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:06 am to
quote:

But why weren’t US hospitals overwhelmed with any of the last SARS-like outbreaks that have had similar numbers?


If you sum the total number confirmed by all SARS and MERS outbreaks and multiply it by ten, you would just get past the halfway mark of those numbered by CoV-19 as of today.

CoV-19 is considerably less lethal then those two, but makes up for it on how contagious it is.

Most of the bad outcomes are associated with zero mitigation strategies allowing it to overwhelm the system.

Which is why the UK’s “hold my beer” Approach is odd.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:07 am
Posted by MF Doom
I'm only Joshin'
Member since Oct 2008
12041 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.



Why is it working in South Korea and Japan



Why is our "private healhcare" dropping the ball with testing?
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11928 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:09 am to
Our hospitals are operating at 200% and people are dying in front of me. Hold on, let me make a social media post about it!
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24705 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:09 am to
He’s talking about the tipping point where the healthcare infrastructure becomes overwhelmed in certain critical path areas and they have to begin triaging access.

In this case it’s respirators that all the advanced cases need and only a limited units are available, which means patients who would’ve otherwise survived will not.

Having read about those situations in 1918 and disaster situations it’s pretty ugly to watch up close.
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
1062 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:09 am to
If you are over 65, be sure to say your age is 56...
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:11 am to
Italy isn’t far from 3rd world status.
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