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Italian doctor updates how Covid 19 is overwhelming health Care system
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:50 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:50 am
I found this article interesting. You might as well.
AL.com article
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I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do. First, Lombardy is the most developed region in Italy and has extraordinarily good healthcare.
I have worked in Italy, UK and Austria, and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
“The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by COVID-19, they are running 200% capacity.
We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ICUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes.
There are hundreds of patients with severe respiratory failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask. Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ICU, I am not saying not tubed (intubated), I’m saying not assessed and no ICU staff attends when they arrest.
Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed. My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they can only offer oxygen.
AL.com article
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to PearlJam
You sure it wasn’t a German doctor reporting on the Rhineland region?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to PearlJam
Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to PearlJam
Yeah the U.K. is about to rid their elderly.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:53 am to PearlJam
quote:
The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by COVID-19, they are running 200% capacity.
We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ICUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes.
@scruffy will be here shortly to tell us this is all normal activity for hospitals and its nothing he hasn't seen before.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:54 am to PearlJam
Sounds like liberal propaganda.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:55 am to JohnnyKilroy
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@scruffy
I was just thinking how this place needs more douche bags posting like the retard Mr Perfect
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 9:56 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:56 am to PearlJam
quote:
PearlJam
Yeah, yeah I, oh, I'm still alive
Posted on 3/15/20 at 9:59 am to PearlJam
I’m not denying that Italian hospitals are overwhelmed. But why weren’t US hospitals overwhelmed with any of the last SARS-like outbreaks that have had similar numbers?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:00 am to PearlJam
Could this be a product of Universal healthcare?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:00 am to uscpuke
That's not the point. The point is "but do I deserve to be---that is the question"
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:03 am to Ham And Glass
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The point is "but do I deserve to be---that is the question"
And if so, who answers, who answers?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:03 am to theenemy
Kinda sorta.
Italy doesn’t have much primary care for whatever reason so basically everyone gets hospitalized if they’re sick.
But a healthcare system getting overwhelmed can happen to anyone in situations like this, just places with more available healthcare are less susceptible to it
Italy doesn’t have much primary care for whatever reason so basically everyone gets hospitalized if they’re sick.
But a healthcare system getting overwhelmed can happen to anyone in situations like this, just places with more available healthcare are less susceptible to it
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:06 am to Golfer
I don't know the answer, but I don't think SARS or MERS were as easily transmitted. I think trusting numbers of confirmed cases with such limited testing is a bit naive, though.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:06 am to Golfer
quote:
But why weren’t US hospitals overwhelmed with any of the last SARS-like outbreaks that have had similar numbers?
If you sum the total number confirmed by all SARS and MERS outbreaks and multiply it by ten, you would just get past the halfway mark of those numbered by CoV-19 as of today.
CoV-19 is considerably less lethal then those two, but makes up for it on how contagious it is.
Most of the bad outcomes are associated with zero mitigation strategies allowing it to overwhelm the system.
Which is why the UK’s “hold my beer” Approach is odd.
This post was edited on 3/15/20 at 10:07 am
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:07 am to RollTide1987
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Nationalized healthcare in a nutshell, ladies and gentlemen.
Why is it working in South Korea and Japan
Why is our "private healhcare" dropping the ball with testing?
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:09 am to PearlJam
Our hospitals are operating at 200% and people are dying in front of me. Hold on, let me make a social media post about it!
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:09 am to Tiguar
He’s talking about the tipping point where the healthcare infrastructure becomes overwhelmed in certain critical path areas and they have to begin triaging access.
In this case it’s respirators that all the advanced cases need and only a limited units are available, which means patients who would’ve otherwise survived will not.
Having read about those situations in 1918 and disaster situations it’s pretty ugly to watch up close.
In this case it’s respirators that all the advanced cases need and only a limited units are available, which means patients who would’ve otherwise survived will not.
Having read about those situations in 1918 and disaster situations it’s pretty ugly to watch up close.
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:09 am to PearlJam
If you are over 65, be sure to say your age is 56...
Posted on 3/15/20 at 10:11 am to PearlJam
Italy isn’t far from 3rd world status.
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