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re: ISIS hostage Kayla Mueller confirmed dead by family
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:14 am to magildachunks
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:14 am to magildachunks
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Nobody said the Bible tells someone to do these things, they are saying that people have used the Bible and religion to justify them doing these things.
I don't know why you are being downvoted, but this is absolutely true.
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Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:15 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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He pointed out that at various times, certain atrocities have been carried out in the name of Jesus. This is undeniable. He also pointed out that these acts should not be used to paint all Christians in a negative light. Also true.
Then he pointed out that since that line of thinking holds for Christianity, it should also hold for Islam. On that we can debate.
True however, since the age of technology and information has begun, radial christians predominantly do not kill any more in the name of religion And the other side does
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:16 am to shiftworker
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I understand your point about infant mortality, but you are missing the boat about who is affected by terrorism. Have you flown since 2001?
Yes, and flying has been since then is a huge pain in the arse, since I'm forced to go through a bunch of ridiculous security procedures designed to stop something that worked once over a decade ago.
ISIS is definitely something I want our military/intelligence to keep an eye on, and I certainly think we should kill anyone involved whenever the opportunity arises, but the coverage it receives relative to the actual impact on American is pretty absurd.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:16 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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Did you just call yourself stupid?
No, but you missing the point is fantastically ironic.
I don't take his words to mean he was comparing today's Christians to ISIS, but the fact that he needs to go back 1000 years to find a Christian comparison to ISIS tells me he shouldn't have even tried. The standards today are different than back then, as they should be. It was a truly stupid and pointless statement.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:17 am to GRTiger
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the fact that he needs to go back 1000 years to find a Christian comparison to ISIS tells me he shouldn't have even tried. The standards today are different than back then, as they should be. It was a truly stupid and pointless statement.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:19 am to GRTiger
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I don't take his words to mean he was comparing today's Christians to ISIS, but the fact that he needs to go back 1000 years to find a Christian comparison to ISIS tells me he shouldn't have even tried. The standards today are different than back then, as they should be. It was a truly stupid and pointless statement.
DING DING DING
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:19 am to GRTiger
Unless he was trying to compare what we've done in the last 25 years to what Christians did in the crusades...which would be insanely stupid on his part. But at this point I'm sure he doesn't care anymore.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:20 am to beaver
Sad to hear this news, but people really need to stop going over to that hellhole in the name of charity for a while.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:20 am to beaver
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Looks like this argument is over if you're going to change the subject to Obama misdeeds. Look, I didn't vote for Obama, this is one of the few things about which I agree with him. You just need to realize that not everything the man says is the word of the devil.
You agree with his prayer breakfast comments? Sheesh man, I agree with you about people twisting every world event into a slight against Obama, but he was outright absurd at that event.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:23 am to LoveThatMoney
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shows that Islam and Christianity are similar
*were
And to Sid, this is the type of person I was talking about. ISIS is similar to how Christianity was 1000 years ago. But here we are talking to someone who still uses present tense language when comparing the two.
Are you saying Obama was basically telling us to give it another 1000 years?
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It's providing a context in which to view ISIS now.
And that is fricking dumb. Really, really dumb. It's giving them a pass. I will not use 1000 year old actions as a prism for viewing ISIS today. And if that was Obama's goal, than he is really banking on America's stupidity for it to work.
Not that it isn't working.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:25 am to LoveThatMoney
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Like you and many in this thread, which has been woefully hijacked from its original purpose, Eric Bolling misses the point entirely. The fact that the President compared the atrocities of ISIS to the atrocities of the Crusades shows that Islam and Christianity are similar; that Christians have perpetrated heinous acts in the name of their faith just as ISIS and other extremists have, which should show Christians that the acts of a few should not equate to the acts of the many; and provides hope that the Islam of today can become more like the Christianity of today. After all, if Christianity has a brutal past but came out from it to become a far more accepting religion, then so to can Islam.
That's not lumping Christians in with ISIS. It's not even insulting Christianity. It's providing a context in which to view ISIS now. We should always look at today through a lens of experience. This isn't to downplay the evils of ISIS, it is, at least in part, to show that faith is powerful and can be used to manipulate people into becoming monstrous. But that doesn't mean everyone of faith is monstrous. That doesn't mean that Christianity is an inherently violent religion. That doesn't mean that Islam is an inherently violent religion. To view the President's comments otherwise is to willfully blind yourself to reality.
I understand President Obama's points just fine and I agree with his points to a certain extant. I still think its was the wrong time to make these observations. He is not a professor in a comparative religions classroom. He is the commander and chief. His citizens were slaughtered like cattle for the entire world to see. An ally's pilot was just burned alive and thousands more humans have been murdered and raped by ISIS. How about dropping the history lesson and tell the world how you plan on kicking ISIS's arse.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:26 am to TigerStripes06
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We could always outlaw drugs and limit the smoking and drinking ages to where people couldn't get drugs and those that smoked and drank would be much more responsible. They would never do so at risk of personal harm since they are responsible adults and since drugs would be illegal, no one would use them.
Don't be senseless. How many years has this country been trying to outlaw drugs, and what have been the effects. You can't outlaw something that's always in demand
Anyways, I don't have a problem with Obama comparing Christianity - in terms with the Crusades and its brutal past - with what ISIS is doing today. That entire region has been conflict for centuries, and it leads itself to barbaric actions. You can't say, that since we live in the 21st century, that nobody will act as they did in the past, that's just ignorant.
I don't know what the best policy is, I don't know if we should send troops, or keep aiding all those who are actively fighting. But I do know these fricks can't keep stirring up trouble with just about every people not including themselves. If so, the world won't keep tolerating their actions and will come down a lot harder than we are.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 10:30 am
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:28 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
No way you are actually this dumb.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:28 am to ThuperThumpin
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I understand President Obama's points just fine and I agree with his points to a certain extant. I still think its was the wrong time to make these observations. He is not a professor in a comparative religions classroom. He is the commander and chief. His citizens were slaughtered like cattle for the entire world to see. An ally's pilot was just burned alive and thousands more humans have been murdered and raped by ISIS. How about dropping the history lesson and tell the world how you plan on kicking ISIS's arse.
100% agree.
What's more important to him? Coordinating with our allies to defeat these frickers, or appeasing America's liberal college professors?
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:29 am to REG861
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but people really need to stop going over to that hellhole
What exactly do you claim to be the "hellhole"? What are the exact borders of where you think we should not go?
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:30 am to GRTiger
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And to Sid, this is the type of person I was talking about. ISIS is similar to how Christianity was 1000 years ago. But here we are talking to someone who still uses present tense language when comparing the two.
Are you saying Obama was basically telling us to give it another 1000 years?
Exactly the point I was coming here to make. ... Obama's "argument" is the most ridiculous statement I've seen him make thus far, and that is saying a lot.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:30 am to ThuperThumpin
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I understand President Obama's points just fine and I agree with his points to a certain extant. I still think its was the wrong time to make these observations. He is not a professor in a comparative religions classroom. He is the commander and chief. His citizens were slaughtered like cattle for the entire world to see. An ally's pilot was just burned alive and thousands more humans have been murdered and raped by ISIS. How about dropping the history lesson and tell the world how you plan on kicking ISIS's arse.
I agree with this too, but I'm not sure exactly what our course of action should be
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:31 am to ThuperThumpin
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I understand President Obama's points just fine and I agree with his points to a certain extant. I still think its was the wrong time to make these observations. He is not a professor in a comparative religions classroom. He is the commander and chief. His citizens were slaughtered like cattle for the entire world to see. An ally's pilot was just burned alive and thousands more humans have been murdered and raped by ISIS. How about dropping the history lesson and tell the world how you plan on kicking ISIS's arse.
Fair enough.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:32 am to ThuperThumpin
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How about dropping the history lesson and tell the world how you plan on kicking ISIS's arse.
I'm for King Abdullah's method.
Posted on 2/10/15 at 10:33 am to TigerStripes06
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And yeah, if she went to Syria as an activist, she pretty much deserved it. Sorry. Zero sympathy.
What makes you think she wanted your sympathy?
It isn't like every aid worker or journalist that goes over there and dies or is kidnapped wants sympathy. I'd imagine many of them know what they're getting into.
This post was edited on 2/10/15 at 10:36 am
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