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re: Is there a more shady, legal industry than residential construction?
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:29 pm to Chef Curry
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:29 pm to Chef Curry
Tow truck companies.
Particularly Mid City Towing in New Orleans. Scum of the earth.
Particularly Mid City Towing in New Orleans. Scum of the earth.
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Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:36 pm to Chef Curry
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How do these people make money?
The overwhelming need for expertise. There also seems to be virtually zero oversight or regulations for that sector or biz. Wildly variable outcomes for all parties involved.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:36 pm to rexorotten
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Years ago, I needed some electrical work done while I was finishing my basement. I called several companies and finally got one to show up to give me a bid. He drove 20 miles to so he could take a look to give me a bid, and he never gave me the bid.
Probably looked at it and determined it wasn’t worth his time.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:55 pm to BabyTac
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Most blue collar people that are in business for themselves aren’t the kind to be able to hold down a steady job. They are worthless at keeping a schedule, following up, or being accountable in any way. It’s less frustrating learning to do home projects yourself than count on some home contractor to get the job 80% done then disappear.
This sums it up.
They all have a short term mindset. They go after the most money available to them at the present moment, and take on projects without thinking through scheduling and balance of clients. They don’t think about establishing a reputation first which is when the money will come. In fact I don’t think that many of them care about their reputation.
If you have a good builder/contractor who puts the client first, his subs will flock to him. The downside is that good work costs a lot more, and you get what you pay for.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:26 pm to Chef Curry
I had some shithead contractor recommended by my realtor when we moved a couple years back. There was one item on our list that was a big one and practically the basis for starting our renovations.
First thing we spoke about on our initial walk through was that item and how we need to know feasibility and pricing for that specific item. We made it clear that that item was by far the most important part of the project.
Contractor essentially told us that was no problem and acted like he did that all the time.
Well a month and a half later most of the other stuff has been completed and he hadn’t even started on that particular item. Ask him about it (for the 5th time) and he finally comes back and says “oh yea what you want to do ain’t gonna happen, we’d have to tear your whole first floor up and it probably wouldn’t work well in the end anyway.
Fired him the next day and didn’t pay the ~20k left on the contract. He hemmed and hawed for an hour about not getting paid but I never heard from him again.
First thing we spoke about on our initial walk through was that item and how we need to know feasibility and pricing for that specific item. We made it clear that that item was by far the most important part of the project.
Contractor essentially told us that was no problem and acted like he did that all the time.
Well a month and a half later most of the other stuff has been completed and he hadn’t even started on that particular item. Ask him about it (for the 5th time) and he finally comes back and says “oh yea what you want to do ain’t gonna happen, we’d have to tear your whole first floor up and it probably wouldn’t work well in the end anyway.
Fired him the next day and didn’t pay the ~20k left on the contract. He hemmed and hawed for an hour about not getting paid but I never heard from him again.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:55 pm to JohnnyKilroy
I owned a class A motor home for 12 years and the degree of repair scams far out weighs any other significant transaction. All the way from new vehicle warranty to consignment sales fix up. Ford motor company would not work on the Ford chassis. All repair outfits wanted 150 bucks an hour. Coach quality of construction would not be sufficient to build a low income house.
Loved the rv life, but you have to be able to repair it yourself.
Loved the rv life, but you have to be able to repair it yourself.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:56 pm to Chef Curry
Chef what are you needing done and where?
Posted on 8/17/23 at 2:57 pm to Chef Curry
Insurance, pharmaceuticals, car salesman
Posted on 8/17/23 at 3:04 pm to Chef Curry
Alot of companies have poor costomer service now a days. Ive been a home owner for about 6 years now and ive experienced alot of this. Never thought me trying to give someone my money would be so hard.
Like you said call and leave messages and they dont respond. Get them scheduled to come out to look at the job, no call, no show. Im easy. I dont care if youre late because of your prior appointment but at least call me or text me. People just dont care anymore.
Like you said call and leave messages and they dont respond. Get them scheduled to come out to look at the job, no call, no show. Im easy. I dont care if youre late because of your prior appointment but at least call me or text me. People just dont care anymore.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 3:15 pm to Mariner
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If you have a good builder/contractor who puts the client first, his subs will flock to him. The downside is that good work costs a lot more, and you get what you pay for.
I've been in the construction business for 27 years albeit large scale industrial construction. My son builds houses all over Houston and even though I am biased I think he is a good contractor. The good and bad are the same with contractors/subs in both industries, its just the scale that differs.
That said, Im not sure I agree with the first part of your statement. Subs will come if you pay them what the market demands and treat them fairly. Even then, you will lose contractors for all kinds of stupid reasons.
The second half of your statement is 100% true when it comes to construction and contractors. We've all heard the old saying: good, fast or cheap - pick two. Truer words cannot be said when it comes to construction of any kind and size.
As to the OP and other posters comments about the general quality of residential contractors, there are probably more bad than good out there but the ratio is closer than you want to think and the market will dictate their behavior every time. If a contractor doesn't give you a bid or ghosts you after he looks at the job its because its not worth his time to perform the work. Its not personal, its business. And just about everything in business comes down to the simple rules of supply and demand. Besides nobody talks about good contractors, they only bitch when they have a bad one.
Also, don't do stupid shite like give a contractor you don't know or haven't worked with before (read one you know you can trust) up-front money. Thats just bad business.
This post was edited on 8/17/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 8/17/23 at 3:45 pm to Saskwatch
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Most blue collar people that are in business for themselves aren’t the kind to be able to hold down a steady job. They are worthless at keeping a schedule, following up, or being accountable in any way. It’s less frustrating learning to do home projects yourself than count on some home contractor to get the job 80% done then disappear.
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The overwhelming need for expertise. There also seems to be virtually zero oversight or regulations for that sector or biz. Wildly variable outcomes for all parties involved.
Contractors and construction guys are bad but this applies to a lot of lawyers as well for sure, for the same reasons.
Without public money, I know plenty of lawyers who would be starving or working lower level retail.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 4:34 pm to StrongOffer
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Particularly Mid City Towing in New Orleans. Scum of the earth.
Chris, lol. He really is scum of the earth. Always has been shady AF.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 4:57 pm to couv1217
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Chef what are you needing done and where?
Looking to do a patio addition and outdoor kitchen in the BR area.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 4:59 pm to msap9020
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If a contractor doesn't give you a bid or ghosts you after he looks at the job its because its not worth his time to perform the work. Its not personal, its business.
That’s fine, just tell me if that’s the case.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 5:06 pm to Chef Curry
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I’ve been thinking about doing some home improvements.
You've been thinking of someone else doing home improvements. As they say, learn to frame
Posted on 8/17/23 at 5:06 pm to touchdownjeebus
It really works both ways. I'm a contractor that specializes in stone and concrete. I don't really need any jobs outside of my regular builders, landscaper and pool builder, but will usually give estimates from referrals or neighbors. What gets me the most is when homeowner tells me what the job should cost. That's when I tune out and say it's not worth my time. I love it when they call me six months later to say the guy they hired for half the price I quoted either didn't finish the job and took all their money, or the wall he built fell down in the last thunderstorm.
Just like their are shitty contractors, there is an equally shitty amount of homeowners. I try not to just leave people hanging and just tell them I'm not interested, or the job is too small, but if they are picks, I don't bother calling back.
Just like their are shitty contractors, there is an equally shitty amount of homeowners. I try not to just leave people hanging and just tell them I'm not interested, or the job is too small, but if they are picks, I don't bother calling back.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 5:07 pm to Chef Curry
Do you have plans drawn up? Most time homeowners want a design build. There is a additional cost for that whether it is time or money. The other issue is having an idea of the realistic cost of what you are wanting. No one ever seems to want to give their budget number for what they're wanting. Then you spend the time to draw it up and price it out and they're shocked. Then you don't hear from the homeowner again
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:41 pm to Maillard
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Do you have plans drawn up?
I do have plans, I almost did this 3 years ago and decided not to. I know costs have gone up but I have an idea of what it should be.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:52 pm to Chef Curry
I can take a look at it if you are interested.
Posted on 8/17/23 at 8:55 pm to Chef Curry
Body shops.
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