re: Is there a kid’s sport which parents haven't ruined?

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burn the kids out

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What burns kids out is focusing on winning too early and not fundamentals. When your talent runs out and you haven’t been building fundamentals on par with well coached kids it’s easier to quit than work hard making it up.

Meh. Both my kids (4 and 6) are in rec leagues (soccer and t-ball for the girl;t- ball and swimming for the boy). All the parents are super supportive. That might change when they get older.

He needs to start rock climbing...where do y’all live?

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What exactly would golf parents have to be insane about? Who would they yell at? The greens for being too fast?

Not directed at salmon but to the poster who mentioned golf parents being psycho

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I've seen kid's parents scream at them for missing putts mid-round. I've seen parents withdraw their kids mid-round because they are mad at their performance. I've seen parents yell at other parents because their child walked in their child's line on the green. I've actually seen one parent make a kid play 18 more holes by themselves after the 18 hole practice round because their kid didn't take enough notes in their yardage book. Kid cried the entire time he was teeing off by himself to start the second 18 because his friends were going to eat together.

I can keep going.


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I will say it's not as bad as baseball parents I had growing up. I played travel ball in the 90s before it was what is today, but still pretty time consuming. I can't tell you how many stories I've got about overbearing parents. shite, I've seen at least 10 incidents of parents getting kicked out of baseball parks for yelling at the refs or coaches.

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Both my kids (4 and 6) are in rec leagues (soccer and t-ball for the girl;t- ball and swimming for the boy). All the parents are super supportive. That might change when they get older.

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T-ball and 4 year old soccer, by us, are both non-competative - no official score is kept, no paid referees are used (the coaches just do it themselves), no standings are published, no playoffs are held.

Parents will take pictures and post on social media about how Janie's 4 year old soccer team destroyed the other team 9-2.

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T-ball and 4 year old soccer, by us, are both non-competative - no official score is kept, no paid referees are used (the coaches just do it themselves), no standings are published, no playoffs are held.

Parents will take pictures and post on social media about how Janie's 4 year old soccer team destroyed the other team 9-2.

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I think multiple sports at a young age is key. I know it helped me tremendously.

I played golf, tennis, baseball, soccer, football, and basketball until about 8th grade and then focused on 2-3. And my dad and I would have marathon ping pong tournaments in our garage, which he later told me was all about hand-eye development for his kids, but he made it so damn fun. I begged to do it.

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I think multiple sports at a young age is key. I know it helped me tremendously.

I played golf, tennis, baseball, soccer, football, and basketball until about 8th grade and then focused on 2-3. And my dad and I would have marathon ping pong tournaments in our garage, which he later told me was all about hand-eye development for his kids, but he made it so damn fun. I begged to do it.

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it very much is key. The S&C industry has multiple studies showing that playing more than one sport is key to long term athletic development and is a key indicator in not having reptive motion injuries.

Also have dozens of studies showing it is important for kids to start strength training and the earlier the better for injury prevention and long term development.

BrandX method and a few others are huge in this area. Hoping i can get my brandx cert later this year.

Barbell medicine did a huge 4 part serious on it to talking about how it is important for long term health and dispelling all of the myths.

Why do I keep seeing swimming? It is by far one of the most toxic sports. Club swim takes kids from about age 4 on up. They may be on the same team, but it is very individual. Parents hate one another because so and so can do the breast or back a little better than their Billy Bob. The coaches hold back the training in order to do private lessons on the side. Parents sneak off and get privates. It's a shite show with more two-faced hatred than pretty much any sport I've seen.

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Yet just about every high school coach I have ever heard on the subject, says they want to see kids focus on one sport when they are young.

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in general, most high school coaches are idiots and do not understand athletic development and believe skill development is the end all be all. There are exceptions though as in the two coaches for the top 2 5a teams that played last night.

I have seen HS coaches tell the 140lbs junior that he needs to just take more private hitting lessons to get better at hitting and lifting will just make him stiff. seen them tell the 6'4 pitcher that weighs 155 lbs that he needs to work on stride length to throw harder and that is what is holding him back.

Im not saying those things arent important, but if a kid comes into HS weighing 140lbs and by junior year, weighs roughly the same.....hitting lessons isnt going to eb nearly as productive as him gaining 20-30 lbs.

90mph formula has some good stats on what it takes strength wise to throw 90+.

essentially to max potential for baseball

BW of - 2.5* height in inches= minimum ideal BW
Deadlift- mimimum of 2* bw or 400lbs whichever is more
Squat- 1.5* BW or 350 lbs whichever is more
Reverse Lunge- 1.5* BW for stability
Chin up- 10 BW chins and 250lbs (BW + Weight) for 1 rep

for pitching you ned to be able to consistently throw 300+ on long toss.

Most HS coaches have no idea how to run a complete program. That is why certain schools consistently show up at the top of the rankings and make deep runs into the playoffs even without having the best talent. And there is a reason many schools like barbe consistently put out college prospects.