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re: Is the National Anthem now racist too?
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:58 am to crap4brain
Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:58 am to crap4brain
loving and being proud of your country is racist in the minds of these fascist liberals.
that is why anything that refers to national pride must be destroyed and erased from being seen or heard about.
you cannot destroy a country without first destroying its identity and history
that is why anything that refers to national pride must be destroyed and erased from being seen or heard about.
you cannot destroy a country without first destroying its identity and history
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 8:58 am to biglego
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think this is a legit concern
I agree but the type of people who solve problems by taking down statues should probably stay away from legit concerns. They rarely help matters.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:05 am to crap4brain
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And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash’d out their foul footstep’s pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
Although to be fair there are several legitimate arguments that the word slave refers to the United States being slaves of the British.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:09 am to R11
R11
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Tell us more given your extensive time on the board...
Nicholls St. Fan
Member since Aug 2017
163 posts
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You stopped being original and funny with these responses about a week or so ago.
Tell us more given your extensive time on the board...
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:16 am to the_watcher
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The Star Spangled Banner lyrics “...and slave” is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment (kidnapping American seamen and forcing them into service on British man-of war ships). This was a Important cause of the War of 1812
Well this is bullshite Bc in the history of the world only black people have ever been slaves. Just look at the word "slave"--it clearly must derive from some lost African tribe that was scooped up in big European nets and hauled away.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:19 am to SCLibertarian
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This is the logical consequence of statue removal and caving to the race-baiting, identity politics of the SJW movement. It will never end until every vestige of this country's past is replaced by something deemed acceptbale by those who are perpetually offended.
Yep.
-First it was "let's compromise to leave all else alone if Georgia would change their flag."
Deal.
-Then it was "let's just move the flags from the top of government buildings to a nearby place of respect."
Deal.
-Then, "just remove this flag and all else is good."
Deal.
-Then it was "just these few ultra racist statues. But all else can stay."
Deal.
-Then it was "all Confederate statues, but just them."
Deal.
-Now it is "everything in anyway connected to someone who was white."
Deal... but WP, Displaced, etc. said this wouldn't happen.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:33 am to crap4brain
99% the damage was done by White Millennials
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:34 am to the_watcher
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This post was edited on 4/8/19 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:37 am to SlapahoeTribe
The two main events that seem to have sparked the present lunacy was Trayvon and Dylan Roof.
Trayvon was killed by a man with darker skin than Beyoncé and who wasn't a cop. For some ungodly reason, it's white supremacy. And after that verdict is the first time I recall masses of people blocking roads. That they were allowed to block roads emboldened them and it's become their standard MO.
Dylan Roof is the media's ultimate wet dream and helped spur the attacks on confederate flags which has morphed into all things confederate and like you say, all things white. Anything is fair game now. The slaughter of cops didn't diminish BLM's legitimacy but Dylan Roof has opened scrutiny on all things white.
Trayvon was killed by a man with darker skin than Beyoncé and who wasn't a cop. For some ungodly reason, it's white supremacy. And after that verdict is the first time I recall masses of people blocking roads. That they were allowed to block roads emboldened them and it's become their standard MO.
Dylan Roof is the media's ultimate wet dream and helped spur the attacks on confederate flags which has morphed into all things confederate and like you say, all things white. Anything is fair game now. The slaughter of cops didn't diminish BLM's legitimacy but Dylan Roof has opened scrutiny on all things white.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:39 am to WallsAllAroundMe
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would just go out on a limb here and say that 98% of the people who are NOW upset about the Anthem have absolutely no idea what the third verse says and/or truly means. They are told it is racist, and talks about killing slaves, so, that is what they will believe for the rest of their lives.
I didn't even know there was a third verse until social media educated me. Considering the third verse is never sung, I'm betting until recently 99% of people didn't know it even existed.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:44 am to crap4brain
Is speech that is a direct attack on The Constitution protected? It shouldn't be IMO because defense of The Constitution is paramount.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:01 am to GetCocky11
quote:What was the charge? Did disagreeing with the president used to be illegal or something?
Francis Scott Key's grandson, Frank Key Howard, was imprisoned for being critical of Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus at the start of the Civil War
Posted on 9/14/17 at 11:37 am to the_watcher
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e Star Spangled Banner lyrics “the hireling ” refers to the British use of Mercenaries (German Hessians) in the American War of Independence
-The Star Spangled Banner lyrics “...and slave” is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment (kidnapping American seamen and forcing them into service on British man-of war ships). This was a Important cause of the War of 1812
-Francis Scott Key then describes the Star Spangled Banner as a symbol of triumph over all adversity
Not a single source was given that day
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:11 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Not a single source was given that day
So you think I just made all that up? Did the War of 1812 never happen? Did the British not enslave American seamen and force them to fight on British warships? How many do you need you ignorant try hard?
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People like you are what's wrong with this country. You hear or read someone who is as equally as uninformed as you are, say or tweet something false - that the national anthem of your own country "mentions killing escaped slaves" - and you take it as fact and then promote the lie yourself.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:14 pm to blueboy
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Francis Scott Key's grandson, Frank Key Howard, was imprisoned for being critical of Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus at the start of the Civil Warquote:
What was the charge? Did disagreeing with the president used to be illegal or something?
Lincoln suspended habeus corpus, ignored the Supreme Court when the court said he couldn't do that, and declared martial law. It didn't matter if Frank Key Howard was charged or not.
A lot of Balitmore's leadership at the time was thrown in jail.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:21 pm to the_watcher
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The Star Spangled Banner lyrics “...and slave” is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment
Except that it is actually referring to the Colonial Marines from the war of 1812. Escaped slaves that were promised freedom in exchange for fighting on behalf of the English
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:25 pm to the_watcher
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quote: It does mention killing escaped slaves in the 3rd verse. Read this slowly you fricking sheep quote: Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution. No refuge could save the hireling and slave, From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave.” -The Star Spangled Banner lyrics “the hireling ” refers to the British use of Mercenaries (German Hessians) in the American War of Independence -The Star Spangled Banner lyrics “...and slave” is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment (kidnapping American seamen and forcing them into service on British man-of war ships). This was a Important cause of the War of 1812 -Francis Scott Key then describes the Star Spangled Banner as a symbol of triumph over all adversity
Too much information and time necessary to actually LEARN history, thank you for connecting these dots for me, for those who are willfully ignorant and easily outraged by long-standing institutions.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:28 pm to RedPop4
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Too much information and time necessary to actually LEARN history, thank you for connecting these dots for me, for those who are willfully ignorant and easily outraged by long-standing institutions.
Legit, the post I made above yours explains the error in this person's claim
I'm not commenting on the anthem and/or implications, but the guy's history is factually incorrect.
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:35 pm to crap4brain
Yes when Key was on that boat in the inner harbor Baltimore during the war and he was inspired to write the song, he was primarily only thinking of white males.
Posted on 9/14/17 at 1:55 pm to GenesChin
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Except that it is actually referring to the Colonial Marines from the war of 1812. Escaped slaves that were promised freedom in exchange for fighting on behalf of the English
All you did was link the wikipedia page of the colonial marines. No where in that wikipedia page, which can be edited by literally anyone, does it say that's who Francis Scott Key was referring too while watching the Battle of Fort McHenry in 1812.
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I'm not commenting on the anthem and/or implications, but the guy's history is factually incorrect.
"That guy" doesn't have or own a history. I provided links and quoted them. You provided a link and then made an assertion yourself that was not in the link. Did you think I wouldn't read it?
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