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re: Is Pot that strong of an addiction to whizz away better career options?

Posted on 8/22/21 at 6:59 pm to
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 6:59 pm to
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How was it about to be finalized without testing his piss in the first place?


He said he could pass piss test, with notice easily.

random, your picked that morning and he'd be fricked.


I didnt know he smoked pot, and i had been working with him for 6 years.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12024 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 6:59 pm to
Ask the LSU football players?
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12532 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:00 pm to
I don’t care what the DOT mandates. I made a generalized post concerning my opinion.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136265 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:00 pm to
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I don’t care what the DOT mandates. I made a generalized post concerning my opinion.


You don't see how this matters to many employers?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:01 pm to
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He probably wouldn’t have it or at least get it suspended after your company reported the failed test.


Would be fine and x amount of days suspended. I was kind of shocked how low the amount of days the DL would be suspended.

Posted by Winston Cup
Dallas Cowboys Fan
Member since May 2016
66742 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:02 pm to
No amount of government programs will ever help these kinds of people achieve more. They are content to their less than mediocre life. Great example here, chance to drastically improve his life and chooses the $100 of weed a week
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37276 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:02 pm to
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that isn't how DOT testing for marijuana is done. what part are you missing that the OP's company is following the law and not a company policy?


The law is stupid. Being hungover the next morning is magnitudes more disruptive to something like driving than getting stoned at 8pm.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141550 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:04 pm to
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I made a generalized post concerning my opinion.


you said you don't "see the need".

the need is:

1) The law
2) The financial liability of having a CDL'd employee get into an accident while driving and failing the subsequent DOT required drug test.

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141550 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:06 pm to
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Being hungover the next morning is magnitudes more disruptive to something like driving than getting stoned at 8pm.


if you are hungover and get popped for a random you will most likely fail and be terminated. The DOT allowance is less than .02% bac.

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16749 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:07 pm to
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The law is stupid. Being hungover the next morning is magnitudes more disruptive to something like driving than getting stoned at 8pm.

Yep, but as long as it’s illegal at the federal level nothing will change. And none of our previous leaders have had the balls to do anything about it.

ETA and what rebel said. The threshold for dot BAC is basically nothing.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 7:09 pm
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14607 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:07 pm to
At the worst, he could of talked to them about it.

At one job many years ago, the company would always pick same people to do the random DOT drug checks. They knew the others would fail, and they were desperate to keep them.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27176 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

yes
weed is life, life is weed
Leed is wife, wife is leed. WOW MAN
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6196 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:09 pm to
I've heard of people passing up a union job making $30 an hour starting pay, because they were afraid they'd miss out on a week or two in hunting season.

People have their priorities. Respect that he has his.
Posted by StealthCalais11
Lurker since 2007
Member since Aug 2011
12532 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:11 pm to
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You don't see how this matters to many employers?

Again, I made a post concerning a subjective opinion, not an argument of legality, government mandates, or a private business’s policy. My opinion, again, is I don’t care what an employee does on their own time, so long as they’re performing their job duties and not under the influence of anything during a work day.

You can get hammered off of alcohol the night before a work day and no one bats an eye, but by god if you get tested and they find trace amounts of weed in your system you’re fired.

And while I’m not an attorney, I would imagine the liability would be similar concerning an employee being drunk on the job vs high on any other substance.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 7:13 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69345 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:13 pm to
There’s a difference between something that creates a compulsive need to use it versus something that is useful to you to the point that you want to use it to make life easier. I’m not addicted to my toaster, but I use it to make breakfast most mornings
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:15 pm to
It's not always about money.
More Americans need to learn that.
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 7:15 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12045 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:17 pm to
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Pot is as addictive as anything else, no matter what people say. That does not mean it should be illegal though.


Exactly. No reason at all for it to be illegal. You can’t OD on weed
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27999 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:17 pm to
You potheads smell like skunk piss. I'm all for your rights but fricking bathe. Or maybe wake and bake is not the best option before breakfast. You're a fricking idiot for driving while blasted.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11003 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:19 pm to
It's 2021, your company STILL does random tests for weed, and he's the bad guy?
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4132 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 7:19 pm to
Some people are near the threshold of reduction in state benefits, and a raise will not cover the loss of the welfare.

So they decline the raise and stay put.

Incentives matter. It's not always weed.
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