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re: Is PB&J not allowed in school anymore?

Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:01 am to
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34575 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:01 am to
Well-written post, and you obviously are taking responsibility for your child.
I understand and sympathize with your plight, and you certainly don't expect the world to change due to your child's unfortunatel illness.

What is lacking in this country is personal responsibility.

I personally don't think this is necessarily a liberal/conservative issue as every damn body expects the government to bail them out of every single unfortunate thing that befalls them.


Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11086 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:03 am to
Kids are messy as shite do you have any?

Have you ever fed a 5 year old lunch?

A kid sits down makes a giant mess of his PB&J. Tables barely get wiped down. Next kid sits down with allergy. He sets his food down on same table.

Anaphylactic reaction.


Don’t worry about risk of death there might be an epi pen or something five minutes down the hall locked in a nurses desk with a key nobody can find.


It’s one thing to be dismissive of adults with food allergies as they have a lot more autonomy over their decisions.


But we are talking about children.

This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 10:18 am
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
15113 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:05 am to
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Maybe I need more coffee but I’m not quite sure what distinction you’re trying to make here.


From your response, it sounds like you’re saying the restrictions at school are to keep it away from kids because they may make a bad decision and eat something they’re allergic to.

When the kid gets older, it will be ok because they’ll be aware of their allergy.

If this is what you meant in your response, the restrictions wouldn’t necessarily be just because of the allergy, but to keep the kid from making a bad decision, right?
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 10:06 am
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11086 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:07 am to
Yep. We plan to home school. We aren’t demanding a school change nor actually trusting they would. Because most people are benevolently ignorant of all the implications of it.

It’s our burden to carry. He’s an amazing kid. It’s worth all the struggles.

But damn it sure is nice when you encounter someone accommodating out in the world of the allergy. It’s like being given a cold cup of water during a marathon.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130390 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:09 am to
I guess I didn't ask the age of the kids. If we are talking tiny ones, sure, I get it.

But come the frick on, if we are handcuffing everyone else to guide against possible issues? You know they go too far.

How about instead of saying, "okay, 300 of you can't have anything that's ever been close to a peanut."


We say "okay, see little Percival over here? If he even thinks about a peanut, he will explode and die, so don't bring any peanuts around him and make sure to wash your hands."


Or maybe just have little Percy stay home, or go to allergy camp.
Posted by LSURep864
Moscow, Idaho
Member since Nov 2007
11086 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:12 am to
Yeah which is what we do. As a loving parent of a three old. It fricking sucks to watch him have his heart ripped out as tell him for the millionth time he can’t do something everyone else is doing.




It just hits different when you are the parent.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
81934 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:13 am to
Asking people to not bring peanut or nut related items to school isn't handcuffing anyone though

It would be if that were your only lunch option
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
32807 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:14 am to
My kids' school has pb&j sandwiches available every day they can take with some fruit if they don't like what's on the menu that day.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57874 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:14 am to
I love when you dorks go all tough guy over little kids’ allergies

Let’s say, hypothetically, you actually had some power and authority and had to decide what to do with public school kids peanut allergies. You’re not kicking to the curb or just saying “don’t go near him if you have peanuts”

You’re doing exactly what has been done since the 2000s or so and banning them from classes/schools as necessary
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37480 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:14 am to
quote:

fr33manator


See, what you are failing to grasp is that we don't want to alienate any kid because of their allergy and make them an outcast. So, instead, we ban the other kids from having things they enjoy because of a minority of students. You see, much less alienating

If the allergies are legitimately that bad, special accommodations need to be made for that student, not just banning the other kids from having something they enjoy.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24593 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:16 am to
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And I'm sure the school has epi-pens on hand anyway


This fricking idiot
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
24593 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:17 am to
quote:

So, instead, we ban the other kids from having things they enjoy because of a minority of students. You see, much less alienating


If your kid can't get through the day without a pb and j you're a shitty parent
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
37480 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:19 am to
Keep looking up, you'll see the point eventually.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2560 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:20 am to
quote:

From your response, it sounds like you’re saying the restrictions at school are to keep it away from kids because they may make a bad decision and eat something they’re allergic to.

When the kid gets older, it will be ok because they’ll be aware of their allergy.

It’s not just the one kid with the allergy.

Your kid could be sitting there completely aware that she should not come in contact with peanut butter when peanut-butter smeared Sophie leans over and gives her besty a hug.

If Sophie was a teenager she would be A) more likely to be aware of her besty’s allergy and B) less likely to be covered in peanut butter.

Again, the elementary school is trying to create an environment where they don’t have those kinds of problems, problems that don’t really exist in groups of older kids and adults.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
81934 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:21 am to
Severe allergies in kids are tough, have 2 with nut and egg allergies, no fricking idea how they developed it bc my oldest isn't allergic to a damn thing.

You have to avoid anything that can harm them but you get into a habit of asking what meals are made of and such, it gets easier.

We give the schools their epipens as required, but that shouldn't give anyone else free reign to do whatever they please around them when it comes to their allergies.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
15092 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:21 am to
banned at my son's school.

It used to irritate me more until I met someone with a severe airborne nut allergy. It's almost killed her a few times. Hearing her stories about restaurants and airlines fricking up and how she carries 3 epi-pens with her because she's had multiple failures is anxiety inducing. I like a good PB&J, but its not worth someones life.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:21 am to
quote:


If your kid can't get through the day without a pb and j you're a shitty parent


Out of curiosity how many kids do you have again?
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10213 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:22 am to
I am allergic to fire ant bites. I have taken the desensitizing shots.

Are comparable shots not available for peanut or shellfish allergies?
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5627 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Greater misunderstanding of medical studies combined with an attitude of absurd overprotection.


fixed this sentence. the average person couldn't put together a piece of furniture from KIA with instruction let alone appropriately evaluate a scientific journal article. Most of them get their "information" from social media.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 3:54 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 10:24 am to
quote:

Severe allergies in kids are tough, have 2 with nut and egg allergies
quote:

The Egg


Yea I bet that is tough
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