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re: Is it Really That Bad Out There?

Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6090 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:19 pm to
Even in broke arss central MS, every restaurant is full, every store parking lot is full, folks buying $10 coffee like there's gold in them, $400k+ houses are being built every where, travel ball is going crazy. Folks complain about the economy, but spend like crazy.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19406 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:24 pm to
You don’t see me paying that money. It’s bad for the middle class. Inflation is a bitch. Worst in 40 years.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3904 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

I’ve been buying nice cars and trucks for a long time so I usually have a good trade and put money down so my payments are not bad.


You may not realize it, but you are saying "I perpetually rent a vehicle for several hundred dollars a month, and I never actually own one."
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23696 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:30 pm to
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How many of those people paid cash?


I know a guy worth 20 million that finances his Yukon. He writes it off as a business expense. Just because you don’t pay cash doesn’t mean you’re not financially capable.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9564 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:34 pm to

For many their vehicle expense is a tax write-off
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16693 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

23% make more than $100k


Is this accurate??
Posted by xBirdx
Member since Sep 2018
2306 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:58 pm to
That’s what a quick Google search said…

Thats per
Household, not per earner
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 10:59 pm
Posted by schwag
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
299 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Here is my question of all those household 200-275 gross income if one higher earner are both earners lost there jobs , how long could they make those payments??


Solid question. This board is predominantly frequented by Louisiana folk. 200-275 gross is quite a substantial income for this area. This isn't Silicon Valley or Wall St. One rarely stumbles into this bracket out of dumb luck. People in this region reaching this level of income generally acquire it over time with skill, perseverance, and focus. They are typically blue collar, entrepreneurs, and/or professionals. That being said, debt is a weight around their ankles while drowning. Debt is to be avoided at all costs. If they lost so said income they would be fine. If not, they would start where the came from ( the bottom) and rebound.
This post was edited on 8/19/24 at 11:12 pm
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1453 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:10 pm to
Yes. And here is how we have done it for our 30 years of marriage. First never carry two car notes.
We stagger cars. ExAmple. Let’s say I pay my truck off today. Then wife goes and trades her car in on something “new”. We always look for something around 2 yrs old with about 25-35000 miles on it. Yes that means we each drive whatever we get for 10 years and it means we always have at least one car note. But it has been manageable.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37106 posts
Posted on 8/19/24 at 11:31 pm to
People are leveraged up to their eyeballs in debt

And that’s not including the credit cards either



Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18303 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 12:29 am to
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People are leveraged up to their eyeballs in debt And that’s not including the credit cards either


It’s called “doom spending.” Eventually it will catch up to everyone. Similar to the over inflated housing market when it crashed. Except this could hit nearly every market. The problem is the markets are inflating but for the most part pay isn’t inflating at the same rate. And consumers could help bring it down by not spending as much but that’s not what’s happening.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135830 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 4:38 am to
People are paying $150k for a $70k sticker. Stupid
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
15738 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 4:43 am to
I make close to half a million a year and drive a Tundra I bought used 9 years ago for $17,000. Vehicles aren’t that important to me as long as they’re reliable.

Americans are a loooong way from hurting tho. Like you mentioned, $60k+ vehicles all over the road, restaurant parking lots packed, $100k+ boats all over the lake, golf courses booked up, etc. I just have to assume we’re a long way from a major recession.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56878 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 5:13 am to
Nothing in the world is so bad as something that is not so bad
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 5:13 am to
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People are paying $150k for a $70k sticker. Stupid


Do you have any examples of that? I can make a short list of cars that command an $80+ ADM but I can't think of one that is near $70k.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27584 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 5:22 am to
I took my kid to get donuts Saturday morning, when we pulled up he stated "Where Are We Living Beverly Hills?"

Freaking Range Rovers, Corvettes, Mercedes, BMW's all over the parking lot.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69541 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 5:49 am to
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I took my kid to get donuts Saturday morning, when we pulled up he stated "Where Are We Living Beverly Hills?"

Freaking Range Rovers, Corvettes, Mercedes, BMW's all over the parking lot.



We moved into a new neighborhood this January. I drive a 2020 Silvarado (paid for), wife drives a 22 Bronco (owe a little)

Every house here has two or three cars. All of them are Lexus, BMW, Range Rover, Mercedes, etc. Im like, we the poor folk in this hood now


Posted by Psych23
Member since Aug 2024
731 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:05 am to
I'll never understand the desire to spend money to have a nice vehicle. It's just a tool to get you from point A to point B. It's like paying twice as much for a hammer or screwdriver just so you can be seen with a really nice hammer or screwdriver. So dumb.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
57875 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:08 am to
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I swear I see 20+ new models of vehicles that go for $90k+ every day driving around town


You'll likely be able to get a deal on them within the next year.

Vehicle repos have been increasing.

quote:

Car repossessions rocketed higher in the first half of the year, a sign of rising consumer distress as the US Federal Reserve weighs interest rate cuts.

So far in 2024, repos are up 23% compared with the same period last year, according to data from Cox Automotive. With high interest rates and inflation hitting household budgets, the spike in seizures provides a window into the average consumer’s financial health at a key time for policymakers. Repos started ticking up last year and have now surpassed pre-pandemic levels, up 14% compared to the first half of 2019.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8518 posts
Posted on 8/20/24 at 6:12 am to
They’re not saving. My wife and I do pretty well for ourselves, especially by Louisiana standards.

We live paycheck to paycheck, but by design. We max out our retirement accounts, HSA, add to our kids 529’s, then put a bit towards liquid investments every month.

If we weren’t doing that, I could see how a two income household could handle a $1200/month car note. It’s dumb as shite, but not unreasonable.
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