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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45999 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:54 pm to
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Survive =\= thrive



India and Bangladesh seem to be thriving quite well with minimum animal based protein intake. Considering India is about to overtake China as the most populous nation on this planet.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23018 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 5:58 pm to
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When meat is too expensive and a luxury, you subsist as a vegetarian. Which humanity has successfully done for thousands of years, and is still doing to this day in places where meat is prohibitively expensive. India, Bangladesh, multiple African nations. etc




"Bro just eat lentils and beans for 3 meals a day. They do it in Bangladesh"

"Wait what do you mean no one will take the job? Entitled fricking commie zoomers"
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45999 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:04 pm to
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"Bro just eat lentils and beans for 3 meals a day. They do it in Bangladesh"


Don't really know the point of your post. The argument was that you can't subsist on a beans and rice diet. That meat was necessary for mental well being, and to keep people from offing themselves based on Mingo's usual retarded argument.

Humanity has existed for millennia on a vegetarian diet, without the mental issues plaguing our current society. Criticize that diet if you will, but to pin that diet to people offing themselves is straight up stupidity. It's the argument made by people who've never experienced society outside of the US.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:04 pm to
India ain’t beating China in tech advances.

You also are arguing different points and trying to move goalposts based on what you feel will be against the proposition. Thriving is obviously subjective but you can’t say Uganda (45m , 93,000 sqmi) is thriving over Texas (29m, 270,000sqmi). Population is not really a great indicator of thriving. See how I cherry picked a situation that helped me?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:07 pm to
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I provided a link. Do the same. You are better than this bullshite, Kork!
I quoted directly from your link which shows that you have interpreted it incorrectly. Your 19k is in make-believe "international dollars", which are absolutely not equal to US dollars. What good would it do to give you a link if you have misinterpreted your own research so badly?

It's very easy to find information which proves that you are way off. The median individual income for a full-time male in the US is in the range of $50-60k. Use your head, NC.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41091 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:07 pm to
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Can be avoided if you don't want to live/work in a trendy city. Need vs. want.


You can avoid commuting in Houston?

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Doing things for fun is a want, not a need. We're talking need here. Not want. See above.


I’m sure your job performance will be outstanding with this mindset lmao
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45999 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:08 pm to
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India ain’t beating China in tech advances.


What does tech advances have to do with thriving as a species?

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Population is not really a great indicator of thriving


Based on what we're talking about, nutrition, it most certainly is.

My first response was to this claim by Mingo:

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People NEED to do things other than wakeup, go to work, eat rice and beans and go to sleep or they'll kill themselves. Literally.


All my responses that have followed have been based on this statement. I'm not moving the goalposts. I've been very specific about my responses to the statement above.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45999 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:10 pm to
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You can avoid commuting in Houston?


You sure can. It's called not living in Houston.

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I’m sure your job performance will be outstanding with this mindset lmao



Nah, because unlike you I understand a want versus a need, and balance my life accordingly. Like not living in Houston.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
27902 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:12 pm to
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You can avoid commuting in Houston?

He said “trendy city” so why are you dragging Houston into this?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:14 pm to
You obviously missed his point. He said the bare necessities to survive are those but to thrive and enjoy being able to do that requires extra. The motivation to do extra at the workplace is typically rooted on providing more for the family and the person and not to better the company. Obviously different when self employed and it’s tied to providing for private life.

You’re stating that countries are thriving just because they are reproducing.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60672 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:16 pm to
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Can be avoided if you don't want to live/work in a trendy city. Need vs. want.
living "in a trendy city" is practically the only way to avoid commuting costs in everyday life
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 6:22 pm
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
24821 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:18 pm to
You can’t support yourself off $15 an hour. Good luck saving for a home, car, etc
Posted by McCorkleJonesGOAT
Member since Apr 2022
362 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:19 pm to
You understand that while the pay is a 10th of the U.S the cost of living is a 15th, right?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23018 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:22 pm to
"Bro you know how many people live in huts in Zaire? Electricity and insulated housing is a want, not a need."
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53535 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:22 pm to
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You can’t support yourself off $15 an hour. Good luck saving for a home, car, etc

It's an entry level, low skilled job. If you are a decent employee one can presume that would be the least you'd ever make. The type of person working that job isn't shopping for real estate. They probably are living with their parents or multiple roommates.

I think the starting pay for Amazon warehouse jobs in many markets isn't much more than this. Go make $2/hr more with one of the largest companies in the world.


This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 6:31 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40350 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:22 pm to
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You sure can. It's called not living in Houston.



What does that do for Op who is hiring in Houston
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 6:23 pm
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17456 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:22 pm to
Gen Z are wayyy out of touch.
When I’ve interviewed many of them it feels like I’m being interviewed for their services.

When I started I just wanted pay. I’m 37
This post was edited on 5/23/22 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45999 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:26 pm to
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You understand that while the pay is a 10th of the U.S the cost of living is a 15th, right?


Is the CoL there calculated like the CoL is here?

Here's a hint: cable, internet, air conditioning, etc. are not an actual CoL. They are a want, not a need.

The only need that would fall under the above is heating in northern climates.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138928 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:32 pm to
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Your 19k is in make-believe "international dollars"
Oh my!
So you are unfamiliar with PPP ???

Is someone posting in your place, or did you experience cerebral trauma of some sort? Serious question! These are a shell of the old Kork posts. If something's happened, please let me know.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22543 posts
Posted on 5/23/22 at 6:41 pm to
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The only need that would fall under the above is heating in northern climates.


Not according to you. Thousands of years ago they didn’t need that. They just made a fire.
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