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Is an invasion of Taiwan by China next on the 2021 Bingo Card?

Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:07 am
An official statement from Chinese run media that is essentially a threat against Taiwan

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Editorial: From what happened in Afghanistan, those in Taiwan should perceive that once a war breaks out in the Straits, the island’s defense will collapse in hours and US military won’t come to help. As a result, the DPP will quickly surrender.






China has gotten increasingly bold about Taiwan over the past few months and is openly threatening invasion essentially.

(I do not think they will invade, but will essentially have Taiwan fold to them and become the next Hong Kong...)
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:08 am to
Another 10% for the big guy
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:08 am to
China owns Biden, so yes.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:09 am to
would just be another problem to blame on the previous administration or white supremacy
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:11 am to
I think the Winter Olympics in Beijing was holding them off, but after this weekend I’m betting they’re saying “frick the Olympics” and are going to invade.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:12 am to
quote:

Is an invasion of Taiwan by China next on the 2021 Bingo Card?

It's more like the Free Space in the middle.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:24 am to
Just wait to Biden tells them what he did to Corn Pop
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:29 am to
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Is an invasion of Taiwan by China next on the 2021 Bingo Card?


i think the smart money is on before the start of NFL season they will be under complete china control and biden wont even say a freakin word about it other then say its just a local dispute they are working out themselves and we must respect that
Posted by DashRipRock
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:34 am to


Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:37 am to
quote:

(I do not think they will invade, but will essentially have Taiwan fold to them and become the next Hong Kong...)



This isn't really comparable. China already had security forces and the People's Liberation Army in Hong Kong. Moreover, China undermined several aspects of civil society, business, law, and education in Hong Kong over the past couple of decades.

What would hold China back is honestly the level to which they're still dependent on Western cities and institutions for their wealth. Despite the bluster, top Chinese communist party officials all have an "escape plan" to the West for when/if Chinese society falls apart, and they keep large amounts of money and valuables (expensive paintings, jewelry, gold) in ports around the world. An invasion of Taiwan places all of that at risk, as well as their cushy lifestyles.

Statements like this one from the Global Times are pure propaganda intended to undermine Taiwan's confidence from within and give pause to US allies who might be willing to help.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 10:39 am
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:40 am to
They have zero reason to actually invade. They'll lose more than they gain. I'd say the status quo is working out pretty damn well for China given their ascendance over the past 20 years. This isn't to say they won't sabre-rattle and make threats, they've got to keep the possibility alive, but I don't think they'd actually proactively invade.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:55 am to
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Become the next Hong Kong


Taiwan and Hong Kong are in very different positions.

What’s happened in Hong Kong was that China cut short a deal it had with England that the status quo (self governance) of Hong Kong would remain in place for 40 years following the transfer of Hong Kong from England to China. The “National Security Act” of last year cut that 40 year period to about 25 years.

Taiwan is the former Chinese government in exile on an island after reaching a “stalemate” in the Chinese Civil War (albeit a 95% loss).

Notably, this island is separate enough from the mainland to be immune to an actual army invasion (6x English Channel width). China possesses no ability to economically starve it.

The main reason Taiwan isn’t a country already is the (IMO) vain hope the KMT have that they can outlive the CCP and retake the Chinese mainland. However, the KMT is losing ground in Taiwan in favor of a Taiwanese identity/independence movement during Xi’s reign in China.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15099 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:56 am to
I don’t think there will be a military invasion of Taiwan. That would be disastrous for everyone, but they’ll try and undermine the government of Taiwan, and get the people to trust the Chinese government more than the government of Taiwan
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6454 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

They have zero reason to actually invade. They'll lose more than they gain. I'd say the status quo is working out pretty damn well for China given their ascendance over the past 20 years. This isn't to say they won't sabre-rattle and make threats, they've got to keep the possibility alive, but I don't think they'd actually proactively invade.


China is GOING to take that island. Sooner. Or later. But they're going to do it. It's a matter of pride for them. Further, it's a signal to the GwaiLo that the whole area belongs to China.

China has been humiliated by the West since at least the Boxer Rebellion. They've had American gunboats patrolling their rivers. The British owned Hong Kong, right on their coast. America protected Chiang Kai Shek on Taiwan, essentially setting up a rival China, right off of their coast.

Oh yes, they're going to take Taiwan. The question is just a matter of when.
Posted by Linoge
Member since Jun 2013
1679 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:14 pm to
I think the dominos have started falling and China will make a move soon. They know the USA is weak now and Biden is an idiot. If they wait too long then Trump or Desantis will be in office in 2024. They have to strike while the iron is hot.

I expect Taiwan will give in without much of a fight. They know they cannot rely on the US to support them anymore and dont want to see their people slaughtered.

This could cause more dominoes to fall like South Korea and even Japan (though I think we would draw the line at Japan and fight for them. Even the soy boys might get their testosterone up to save beloved Nintendo).

This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:14 pm to
Yes and the Democrats will let them.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2857 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

This could cause more dominoes to fall

Israel, Ukraine, Kuwait, Kurds, and several other vulnerable nations/groups better be arming up for self reliance at least until January 2025.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:33 pm to
quote:

I think the dominos have started falling and China will make a move soon. They know the USA is weak now and Biden is an idiot. If they wait too long then Trump or Desantis will be in office in 2024. They have to strike while the iron is hot.

I expect Taiwan will give in without much of a fight. They know they cannot rely on the US to support them anymore and dont want to see their people slaughtered.

This could cause more dominoes to fall like South Korea and even Japan (though I think we would draw the line at Japan and fight for them. Even the soy boys might get their testosterone up to save beloved Nintendo).



This could perhaps be the most ill informed foreign policy post I've read on this board, and that's saying something. Japan? South Korea?

Tell me, o' wise one, WHY would China do those things, knowing full well they'd not only start WWIII, but they'd shut off nearly all of their trading partners?

The Chinese are a lot of things but impulsive sure as frick isn't one of them.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7419 posts
Posted on 8/16/21 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

China is GOING to take that island. Sooner. Or later. But they're going to do it. It's a matter of pride for them


Putin operates on pride. Xi operates on pragmatism.
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