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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)

Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:07 am to
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9770 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:07 am to
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Millions in embezzlement discovered, terminated by his law firm the morning of the murders, estranged wife likely divorce looming, civil cases pending re: his sons drunken boat accident that killed a girl, so basically world crashing down scenario with someone that was arguably not very stable.


Angry at what his son had brought on him, angry with her for demanding a big settlement in divorce, exposing his financial improprieties when her divorce attorney started looking at Alex’s financial doings?
Blaming them for putting him in position to be exposed?
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2877 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:32 am to
I may just be getting old and lowering my standards, but I find this CFO witness of his law firm to be kinda sexy.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5627 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:46 am to
i havent been following this at all.

is this a slam dunk he did it case?
Posted by Beef Tips
Member since Jan 2013
2877 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:52 am to
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i havent been following this at all.

is this a slam dunk he did it case?


I think so.

He is heard in the background of a video his son was recording just a couple mins before the murder.

Alex did not know that recording was taking place. (son was recording a dog and Alex and Maggie can be clearly heard in the background)

Since Alex didnt know about this recording, his alibi was that he was asleep during this time.

Much more than this, but IMO this is the dagger.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 11:53 am
Posted by gravy553
Member since Feb 2016
190 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:55 am to
Is this Chris Wilson guy facing financial charges too?
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10216 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:37 pm to
If Wilson is the long time friend who was tied to the misappropriation of funds that were supposed to go to the deceased housekeeper's family, he's also wading into trouble.

Heck, maybe he's not that one, just one of many????

How much will what's left of the law firm, their corporate insurance and whatever regulatory bodies might have oversight ....how much will they tolerate?

With Alex Murdaugh reported to be facing over ninty counts, that dude has to have a circle of friends 'cause he couldn't have managed that level of malfeasance single handed.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9770 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:51 pm to
Whoa, Lafitte, AM’s partner in embezzlement(already convicted) is her husband’s brother in law, and she looks pretty angry. ??
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
11400 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:29 pm to
This guy on the stand is pretty good. Defense is trying to come up with some wacky shite now.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
10216 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 2:45 pm to
LINK

The CFO testified that they found the money in accounts it didn't belong in, and when they contacted the rightful owners, the owners didn't realize that they had been robbed.

The judge has said to call non-financial witnesses so as not to waste jury time and after the jurors are dismissed this afternoon, they will go into discussions on including the financials side of this.
As a prosecutor said,
quote:

Mr Waters said he has further witnesses on the financial side of the motive argument — Mr Murdaugh’s paralegal, Michael Gunn, principal at Forge Consulting; and attorney and Murdaugh friend Chris Wilson — ready to testify without the jury present.

Defence attorney Jim Griffin argues that Ms Seckinger’s testimony shows that these financial crimes are not admissible in the murder case and says that admitting this line of evidence will add more than two weeks to the trial.

Mr Waters says he can streamline the state’s case regarding the financial crimes, saying: “The state’s intent is not to try one hundred white-collar cases in the context of this murder case.”

The state argues that it is important to establish what was going on in Mr Murdaugh’s life in the lead-up to 7 June 2021
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Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4945 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:02 pm to
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The state argues that it is important to establish what was going on in Mr Murdaugh’s life in the lead-up to 7 June 2021.

Definitely agree with this. Not necessarily to show the jury he’s a bad guy cause of these other crimes, but they really do need to see what was going on in his life to understand the motive. The walls were closing in on him. He had no way out and his behavior was becoming more and more erratic
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9770 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:02 pm to
He set up his money laundering account using the stolen name of “Forge Investment” firm.
Guy has a sense of irony, doesn’t he?
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9796 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:02 pm to
Millions in embezzlement discovered, terminated by his law firm the morning of the


So, lawyer stealing from lawyers.
Isn't it ironic?
Lololololololol
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
8520 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 4:17 pm to
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Angry at what his son had brought on him, angry with her for demanding a big settlement in divorce, exposing his financial improprieties when her divorce attorney started looking at Alex’s financial doings? Blaming them for putting him in position to be exposed?


He was behaving erratically, like the mounting pressure was getting to be too much. There is also a strange botched or fake assassination attempt mixed in there…
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
7977 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:19 pm to
Following loosely. I can see the shooting the wife but not the son. Also doesn’t make a ton of sense for the wife to go forward with any divorce and further financially ruin him sense half of nothing is nothing. Think he’s gonna walk for these murders without a better motive from the prosecution.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1109 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:29 pm to
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He set up his money laundering account using the stolen name of “Forge Investment” firm. Guy has a sense of irony, doesn’t he?
It’s hilarious but still nefarious. “Real” Forge is an investment firm who specializes in structured settlements, while the “Fake” Forge was just AM dba “Forge,” in reality just an account with Bank of America to run settlement checks through before funneling to his personal account.

So on a cursory glance, it appeared these settlements were set up as structured settlements for the plaintiff, but later revealed that plaintiffs were getting a fraction (and sometimes zero) of the actual settlement figure. This was all after attorney fees had been subtracted of course.
Posted by ILurkThereforeIAm
In the Shadows, Behind Hedges
Member since Aug 2020
640 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:34 pm to
I believe he did it. He lied about not being there, deleted calls off his phone, has been embezzling money for years, and was hours away from everything falling apart.

BUT, if I’m on that jury and am tasked with the responsibility of deciding, without a reasonable doubt, that he was the one person who pulled the trigger, I don’t know that they’ve provided enough evidence to show that he’s the one who shot them. He was there, for sure, and he’s tried to cover up a bunch of shite, but is there physical evidence that he killed them? I hope so.

Is cousin Eddie on the witness list? That should be interesting.
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1109 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:41 pm to
The 1700 acre $4M hunting lodge property where murders occurred and the Edisto beach house had been placed solely in MM’s name. Apparently AM had been borrowing against beach house -without her knowledge- with help of Palmetto State Bank (law firm CFO’s brother-in-law banker again).

There is some speculation that Paul may have been last minute collateral damage, as AM felt squeeze with law firm confronting him and his highly respected and influential father being end-of-life, with whatever financial reasons he might have had for killing MM that night. I did read there was a $4M inheritance from his daddy but would be in trust for AM and sons, but not completely sure of source.

Also fun fact: AM supposedly paid $5 for the Moselle hunting lodge property to his father, who had acquired in some questionable way from a convicted drug trafficker. That’s why the big shed by the kennels was called the hangar, cause that guy had an airstrip there.

**Anyone with better info feel free to correct any scurrilous Reddit/Twitter rumors I am repeating.**
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
10891 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:46 pm to
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That’s why the big shed by the kennels was called the hangar, cause that guy had an airstrip there.


It did come up in court that there was an airstrip on the property previously.
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
11981 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 5:52 pm to
Even if he is found not guilty, he is going to get his arse handed to him when he goes to court for the financial crimes. What was talked about today doesn’t even scratch the surface.

I hope the judge allows the financial stuff. He stole millions, lied about it, and showed no remorse doing it. I think the jury needs to see that and not the picture Poot is trying to paint.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117807 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 6:20 pm to
I didn't put it together until just a few minutes ago, I watched the series about this family on HBOmax. This is a pretty crazy situation.
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