re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)

Yeah, it’s way different IMO.
And it’s not like the Murdaughs are some great legal minds.
They’re just slip and fall lawyers.

Believe me, SC old considers money new at 100 years.
These are people who can trace their lineage back to the 17th century, if not further.
The Murdaughs are not old money. And their means of income means a lot. Slip and fall lawyers are not the same as old established banks, major land investments and industry.
Think of the old money of New Orleans-the people of Rex and Comus-and compare it to the ambulance chasers in your area.

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It’s like 3-4 generations of wealth We must be thinking different meanings of the term.

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i thought the general consensus was old money = money/status from europe

It’s a little incomplete because it was finished before the Trial, and the Stephen Smith stuff is pure speculation, but most of it is pretty accurate.

I don’t know why I’ve been so interested in this case. I’m not a true crime person. I think it’s because of how he abused people who were naive and not very educated. He’s a bully, and then topping it off with killing his wife and son.
What a horrible human being.

Once again showing that defendants need to stay the hell off the witness stand

Which documentary is the best?

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Not at all. He's already over what he did, he's a sociopath. He's only lame ting getting caught and having to adjust to prison life. He could do that too on death row.

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Agree. He's not going to sit there thinking about Maggie and Paul, he's going to sit there thinking about himself and where he's at. Taking his way of life away is better than taking his actual life away IMO.

Followed this case closely from the beginning. What really sticks with me:

1) Two Guns. Possible for him to use two? Absolutely. But hard to downplay Occam’s razor here. Knowing the facts, I believe one shooter (Alex), two guns - but it does make me ponder.

2) seeming dichotomy of intelligence. He’s wily enough to use two guns to throw off investigation, but then shows ignorance in deleting calls from phone (any lawyer who has been thru any forensic discovery knows this is superficial). Smart enough to leave his phone at house, but dumb enough to take Maggie’s phone with him when he leaves? (She had location restrictions, but again her location still could still be in cache had faraday bag been used). Uses two guns to throw off scent, but dumb enough to use two family guns, with same ammo that is all over the house?

3. To believe his story on Cousin Eddie - you need to believe that a friend approached another friend, said kill me please, friend says cool, no problem. That either takes a friend who is an incredibly violent person (and who allegedly failed poly about being there on June 7) - or there is a lot more there.

4. The amount of money sent to cousin Eddie and other nefarious characters - way too much to claim it was only for pills.

5. The SLED blood splatter imbroglio only fell apart because prosecution inadvertently included a draft Bevel report in discovery, and a paralegal on defense team happened to catch that among hundreds of thousands of pages of discovery. A draft which found no evidence of blood. Pattern analyst only changed tune when two SLED agents came to visit him in Oklahoma… Without finding that, the defense would not have known to pull that thread, which thread showed how incompetent (and pliable) this “expert” was, to such an extent the state didn’t present it. Very scary.

He's a serial liar

Randy Murdaugh, Alec's older brother, talks about his brother who he called a serial liar. He hasn't spoken to his brother in a year. He was hit up by Alec for a 75K loan just before the attack that was supposed to pay insurance to Bubba, and that loan remains unpaid.

He is also deeply bothered by what didn't happen post murders. He said he was on the phone calling everyone he knew trying to get any lead he could on what happened, who killed his nephew and his sister-in-law. And Alec made no effort to contact anyone. Randy said he thinks Alec knows more.