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re: Investigators When they KNEW Murdaugh lied (Page 112)

Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:52 pm to
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If the Defense Attnys are going to take it to the Supreme Court, are either of them approved to argue in front of the Court? (Approved is the wrong word, but I do know not every one can. A prof of mine who taught water law was telling us about what he had to go through to reach that stage.)


Different attorney's will go the appeals court.

I believe SC is set up similar to Ohio (based on a previous case the judge mentioned he tried that was overturned) where cases go to the appeals court, then to the SC Supreme Court.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34573 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:56 pm to
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He couldn't even put down a dog

Hesitation to kill a dog isn't really dispositive of one's ability to murder. With the dog you likely wouldn't have the same animus as a maligned family member.
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but became Dirty Harry all of the sudden

It doesn't take Dirty Harry to murder two unsuspecting people relatively close to each other, just some mental preparation for the gun switch.

I don't recall if AM's hunting experience was addressed but I'd assume he had a bit of it, and/or could have even been out there shooting in the days leading up to familiarize himself with them.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9772 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 12:58 pm to
John Marvin is corrupt to the core. He’s the one who hides the evidence.

And his crocodile tears about trying to clean the crime scene was shot down by SLED.
State agencies have programs to aid the families of traumatic injury to help them get the scenes cleaned up once the site investigation is completed.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 1:00 pm
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9772 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:03 pm to
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doesn't take Dirty Harry to murder two unsuspecting people relatively close to each other, just some mental preparation for the gun switch.


AM has been using guns all of his life. I can’t imagine that he had much trouble making the switch from the shot gun to the Blackout.

On a lighter note did anyone notice how Waters trashed the Defense’s ballistics expert from Connecticut in closing. The expert gave an opinion on the blackout, and Waters said, “He’s from Connecticut. They can’t even get one up there.”
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:03 pm to
So I still can't get past the mental gymnastics of the motive presented by the prosecution.

You're telling me that to take the heat off of me from my law firm fraud case I'm just going to go ahead and maliciously and salaciously murder my wife and my son. I just can't make the leap that says I'm going to cover up one crime by committing a worse crime. I mean shite anyone will tell you that the first suspects in a murder are usually the people closest to you especially if it was at home.

I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm saying as a juror I couldn't have bought that motive.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53402 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:05 pm to
So, I haven't followed a second of this trial.

But it is crazy how into this some of yall are. The guy is where he belongs, prison, and that family's grip on that area has been broken finally. And that asshat Dick Harpootlian goes home with the L.
This post was edited on 3/3/23 at 1:06 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283290 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:06 pm to
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But it is crazy how into this some of yall are


Happens in every one of these true crime stories. People identify with the defendant in some way and totally reject logic.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160527 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:15 pm to
do I think he did it? Yup

do I think the prosecution proved it? Not really.

He deserves to rot in prison for life regardless so can't say I feel for him or that he got railroaded
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
79259 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:19 pm to
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do I think he did it? Yup

do I think the prosecution proved it? Not really.

He deserves to rot in prison for life regardless so can't say I feel for him or that he got railroaded



Agreed.
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5260 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:20 pm to
There is no evidence to support it. But a theory that seems reasonable is Alex was going to kill himself also as part of a murder suicide but chickened out.

Had Alex been killed, Buster maybe would have got life insurance money (10 mill) and the ability to continue in the family law firm if he became a lawyer.

That's the only theory that makes sense to me as for why Alex did it. Maybe after killing Paul and his wife Alex decided he couldn't do it to himself.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85720 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:21 pm to
What would it have taken for you and Bil to seal the deal? What was missing that you needed to see?

Sounds like y'all both think he did it, but there was something missing to convict.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9094 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:21 pm to
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he got railroaded


If this is true, this is a HUGE problem.

What if you find yourself in the defense chair getting railroaded?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84541 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:22 pm to
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So I still can't get past the mental gymnastics of the motive presented by the prosecution.
I don't think they were locked into one motive. Alex was asked point blank if he was a family annihilator.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
138412 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:22 pm to
I was the same until he admitted to being the 3rd voice on the snapchat.

That proved he was at least culpable.

Had Murdaugh never talked to cops and given the shitty bogus alibi, he may have gotten away with it.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53402 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:22 pm to
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All new SCDC prisoners start out at Kirkland in R&E. I wouldn't be surprised if after Kirkland he was sent next door to Broad River a maximum security prison.



McCormick
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:27 pm to
If the tape with his voice never comes out, and he doesn't get on the stand, pretty sure he would have gotten away with it.

Even with the tape, if he doesn't get on the stand and lets his defense team argue the timeline, he still may have gotten away with it. But he had to testify, and that was a big part of doing him in I think.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4947 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:28 pm to
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You're telling me that to take the heat off of me from my law firm fraud case I'm just going to go ahead and maliciously and salaciously murder my wife and my son.

Nothing about his actions was to “take the heat off”. The entire kingdom he had built was crumbling apart. He was going to be exposed to the world as a complete fraud within days of the murders (thanks to Mark Tinsley and the civil case for the boating accident). And it almost worked. After he killed Maggie and Paul a lot of the civil case was put on hold. People felt sorry for him and for a while he kept it all going until the law firm confronted him. Then, what do ya know, the whole roadside shooting situation happens.
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I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm saying as a juror I couldn't have bought that motive.

That’s fine, the prosecution doesn’t have to prove motive.
Posted by Festus
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Member since Nov 2009
85720 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:28 pm to
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But a theory that seems reasonable is Alex was going to kill himself also as part of a murder suicide but chickened out.


If this was the case, then why use 2 guns? To me, the 2 guns removes the reasonable argument of murder suicide.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
34573 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:28 pm to
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So I still can't get past the mental gymnastics of the motive presented by the prosecution.

You're telling me that to take the heat off of me from my law firm fraud case I'm just going to go ahead and maliciously and salaciously murder my wife and my son. I just can't make the leap that says I'm going to cover up one crime by committing a worse crime. I mean shite anyone will tell you that the first suspects in a murder are usually the people closest to you especially if it was at home.


I mean, people snap all the time and murder their loved ones, often for little or no reason. Familicide
Remember this one? Watts Family Murders

And AM is the same person that:
is a longtime opioid addict,
arranged for someone to kill him, and
stole money from XX number of people over a decade or so, many that were clients that he was likely somewhat close to and in need of money.

So yeah it's hard for a normal, reasonable person to comprehend the motive of someone who isn't normal and reasonable, which is why (I'm guessing) motive isn't a legal requirement for conviction.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
4947 posts
Posted on 3/3/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Had Murdaugh never talked to cops and given the shitty bogus alibi, he may have gotten away with it.

He should have just gone to the hospital with his dad and “fallen asleep” there. Wake up and go discover in the morning. By going right back to the house he gave such a small window that he was really the only person that could have done it.
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