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re: Insurance rates in the Palisades was cheaper than 97% of all US zip codes.

Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:01 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104769 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:01 am to
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5450 is cheap?
I pay over 8k so yes
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
8728 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:01 am to
No wonder State Farm and other insurers left. The property value and risk kept growing out of control, but the state kept mandating what price they charge to insure these multi million dollar properties with pennies.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
175878 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:02 am to
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Thats insane




Yea

To be fair that is covering my main house and detached guest house which is large for a guest house at 1400 sq ft heated so they had to consider the cost to rebuild two houses.
This post was edited on 1/10/25 at 8:05 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22501 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:02 am to
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Yea I could rebuild my house at a huge profit based on what they said the replacement cost is. Its a bullshite number they come up with to charge higher premiums


Insurance has to take into account natural disasters like this though. The cost to build now is going to astronomical due to the demand. People saying the land cost is the main reason are right in a normal situation, but I’m guessing the cost to rebuild this area is going to be $800-$1000 sq Ft range for avg build outs the next couple of years. Contractors are about to get rich
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
20749 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:05 am to
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Unsurprising melt is unsurprising,

You need a dictionary
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
34789 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:07 am to
Same.

5450 is a bargain in a lot of cases, even in Louisiana
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
13853 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:10 am to
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No wonder State Farm and other insurers left. The property value and risk kept growing out of control, but the state kept mandating what price they charge to insure these multi million dollar properties with pennies.


They pulled out due to the risk and rebuild costs, not the property values.

My guess is the people in Palisades will be fine from a financial standpoint. They're either wealthy enough to fund the rebuild on their own (many without even blinking an eye), or, were sophisticated enough to find the insurance that was available since most of the "standard" carriers won't write.

Places like altadena and sylmar are a different story. I'm not sure if altadena is considered a brush area, but if it was, most carriers weren't writing. Hopefully these folks had coverage through the state sponsored program (FAIR plan).
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3460 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:11 am to
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melt
?

Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45736 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:13 am to
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The cost to build now is going to astronomical due to the demand.

Which is exactly why people should be insured for 100% of their replacement cost or at least 80% of it because most insurers are going to give you up to 20% or maybe even more in some cases extra in the event you need it. All these people affected by the fires are definitely going to need that extra bit.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
44433 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:14 am to
We pay 5k for some of our rinky dink rental properties here in FL that are worth 350/400k
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3460 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:15 am to
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5450 is cheap?


You think 5450 is expensive???
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86903 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:15 am to
Yes, melt. Totally unnecessary ad hom is pretty much the definition of melting.

I could have called you names or said your way of thinking is stupid, but I didn't. You just can't help yourself though. Some might say you were chomping at the bit to sling shite at me
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
88069 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:16 am to
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You think 5450 is expensive???


Yes very expensive
Posted by chrome_daddy
LA (Lower Ashvegas)
Member since May 2004
2322 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:17 am to
And your point?

Do you think the folks that do have insurance will actually have adequate coverage for all of what they face if they try to rebuild over the coming 3-5 years? We shall find out.

And that's why 7 of the top 12 insurers pulled out of the state, their rates were kept artificially low.

Another example of California mismanagement.

And as we've seen in the Gulf states, this event is gonna have a snowball effect and wreck rates, insurerers and property owners alike.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86903 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:18 am to
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Yes very expensive


You gotta remember a lot of us are in south LA and insurance has skyrocketed here
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
34154 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:18 am to
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Kind of a flawed way of analyzing it when so much of the value of the property is from the land value.


So what had the value that required the higher premiums in New Orleans? The filled in swamp land or the shitty home on top of it?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
125967 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:18 am to
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Adam Corolla said the other day chances are the coastal commission blocks people from rebuilding on the coastal side of PCH.


They absolutely will try to block it

But those are rich people that can afford good lawyers

Gonna be quite a fight
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
3460 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:19 am to
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Some might say you were chomping at the bit to sling shite at me


You've already got shite for brains...I wouldn't want to add to that. And you can
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ad hom
on these nuts
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86903 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:20 am to
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So what had the value that required the higher premiums in New Orleans?


Are unfamiliar with hurricanes?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86903 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 8:20 am to
Yep, no melts here
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