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re: Indiana to develop "In-Pavement Charging Solution" for EVs

Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:18 am to
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That is why they're researching, to determine if one is a better option than the other. What's the issue?


The research is not the issue. Just don't believe this is the way. This research is warranted though. It's an interesting concept that even if the roadway is not able to be implemented, the ability for parking lots to do the same thing will be a good idea.
Posted by Steadyhands
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:23 am to
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It's not a new idea. There are several US companies working on it as well. It'll be a while before they can overcome the cost and efficiency loss. But it's definitely technology worth pursuing.


Agreed. It's not something that will be readily available in the lifetime of anyone already of driving age, but it should be studied and implemented where economically practical.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:27 am to
The real objection of a lot of people is they've decided electric vehicle = libtard. It's the other team's technology so they're agin' it. Newsflash, the internal combustion engine isn't going away any time soon, but it is going away, no matter who's in office. You'll see more and more pilot projects like this.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:28 am to
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The research is not the issue. Just don't believe this is the way. This research is warranted though.


Then what way would you suggest this technology be tested/utilized in a practical format such as a mainstream road system?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:35 am to
Apparently, roads don't freeze there.

And they don't use salt.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22387 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:49 am to
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Then what way would you suggest this technology be tested/utilized in a practical format such as a mainstream road system?


Not sure what you're asking. I've already said it should be researched.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:15 pm to
If they can do this and it not cost more than an air craft carrier per mile it would change the EV game. It could mean pretty much unlimited range...

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Apparently, roads don't freeze there.

Wait until you see the researchers faces when they learn that information that they can't possibly already know!
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 1:07 pm to
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Not sure how they are going to make them efficient enough to make it worth the cost.


They won't. Someone is going to sucker millions in tax dollars from low-IQ bureaucrats to sell this stupid idea. Like Solar Roadways, only people who failed grade-school physical science believe these projects are feasible.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 1:10 pm to


This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112428 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 1:19 pm to
If you're driving in 2 feet of water, I don't think getting a charge from the road is very high on your priority list.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted by LarryCLE
Member since Apr 2017
1638 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:12 pm to
Indiana had to reduce the speed limit on a section of interstate a few years ago because there were so many potholes. This should turn out well.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7183 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:19 pm to
Works the same way that your alternator in your gas powered car works, only on a larger scale.

To make this work ,like in the drawing,it will be damn expensive.

Cheaper and easier solution is use an energized 3rd rail with a pickup shoe on your EV just like the subways have been using for over a hundred years.

Don't touch the 3rd rail.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
29145 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:21 pm to
Yeah, it will wear really great and cost x10. As much.
Posted by TygerDurden
Member since Sep 2009
1920 posts
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:22 pm to
Anything like this in the next 50 years is a fools dream. So the same people that have brought us broken arse bridges and roads think they will build and maintain a road full of technology like this. Total BS.
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:47 pm to
Lol
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:10 am to
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Works the same way that your alternator in your gas powered car works, only on a larger scale.

To make this work ,like in the drawing,it will be damn expensive.

Cheaper and easier solution is use an energized 3rd rail with a pickup shoe on your EV just like the subways have been using for over a hundred years.

Don't touch the 3rd rail.


I think we should use negative/positive magnets installed in the road to launch cars on the interstate and keep them going like rollercoasters do, that way all cars can be retrofitted to work with it.

Just think of the possibilities and fuel savings if you essentially never had to use the accelerator on the interstate between point A and B, it could be a game changer. You only had to put the vehicle in neutral after accelerating to speed on the on ramps, and the magnets did the rest.

Of course, this sounds like a great idea and solution until you realize the insane cost of retrofitting hundreds of thousands of miles of interstate with giant magnets. Just like the insane cost of installing the idea presented here. And that doesn't even account for the inordinate amount of electricity that this idea of wireless charging while driving would consume, let alone the cost to simply install the hardware.

It would actually be cheaper and more practical to take the magnet route, which I literally just came up with.
This post was edited on 6/28/22 at 12:15 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 6/28/22 at 12:50 am to
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Why not just make the above-ground direct chargers better and more widely available?
Why not both?
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I don't think the research is the issue, it's the practicality even if it's realized.
Technological research by definition studies the presently impractical in order to figure out what is practical. The tech that people will have in 50 years is being worked on today. Here we have a technology that we already know works, so research is working on bringing down costs and making it practical.

But even if it's never practical to make every mile of road charge EVs, the lessons learned in doing this will absolutely improve the tech to make it work better in garages and at stop lights and signs and such. I'd much rather if cities generated revenue by selling 25 cents worth of electricity to every car that stops at a light rather than mailing out bogus light running "tickets".

And think about bus routes... what if they could just put these along enough of the route to charge the buses enough for one lap? They would never have to stop for fuel or a charge, and they could have *much* smaller batteries which would save a ton of money and resources, as well as reduce the amount of charge needed in the first place due to reduced weight.

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