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re: Indiana cops bust window and use stun gun on passenger in seatbelt stop
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:34 pm to northshorebamaman
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:34 pm to northshorebamaman
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:35 pm to LSURussian
Five.O (a cop on here) says that giving your name, DOB, and address is sufficient, but I'm not sure what state he's in.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:36 pm to burgeman
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penn v mimms It is reasonable for an officer to have a driver exit the vehicle.
This does not apply. Passenger in question was not the driver and was not suspected of any crime. The driver was not wearing the seat belt.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:36 pm to burgeman
Why did you reply to me? I never even touched that issue.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:36 pm to tjohn deaux
I say all cops are pos. There are really great cops but at the same time they know who the rogue/bad ones are and they back them up/go to bat for them/and enable them. So they are just as guilty.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:36 pm to burgeman
quote:What about a passenger as in the one in the OP, which is who the police broke into the car to drag out and taze?
It is reasonable for an officer to have a driver exit the vehicle.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:38 pm to LSURussian
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quote:And some states, Louisiana being one of them, have stop and identify statutes. Are you saying in Louisiana I have to carry ID with me at all times and I have to give my ID to the police anytime they request it? I honestly don't know the answer. Please inform me.
You do not have to carry with you or present an ID in the US.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:39 pm to northshorebamaman
I was just replying to a random post I'm on my phone. I was mostly addressing the folks saying they don't have have to getout of the car if requested on a traffic stop if they are the driver.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:48 pm to LSURussian
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Are you saying in Louisiana I have to carry ID with me at all times and I have to give my ID to the police anytime they request it?
You have to present some form of identification. Idk what forms will suffice, but it doesn't have to be a physical ID.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:53 pm to UpToPar
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You have to present some form of identification. Idk what forms will suffice, but it doesn't have to be a physical ID.
If its not physical then what are our choices...let's see...how about verbal?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:56 pm to UpToPar
I hope I'm never stopped when I'm jogging or walking. I don't carry ID then. Or when I'm mowing my yard. Or walking my dog. Or sitting in my seats at Alex Box Stadium.
I'm going to ask some police I know what they think the law says.
I'm going to ask some police I know what they think the law says.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:59 pm to Flame Salamander
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If its not physical then what are our choices...let's see...how about verbal?
I've already said that I'm not sure what courts have found to be sufficient. I suppose verbal would be okay. Is there any indication that the passenger verbally told the cop his name outside of the law suit itself?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:25 am to lsu777
There is no reason not to comply with an Officers order.
Show respect and chances are you will not be mistreated. Yes cops can be arrogant power trippers but remember these folks job is dealing with the lowest form of humanity usually.
So let them power trip. I for one wouldn't want their jobs for triple the pay.
Oh and I've had a gun drawn on me and asked to lay face down in the street at a routine traffic stop before....so its not like i don't know how they can be.
Show respect and chances are you will not be mistreated. Yes cops can be arrogant power trippers but remember these folks job is dealing with the lowest form of humanity usually.
So let them power trip. I for one wouldn't want their jobs for triple the pay.
Oh and I've had a gun drawn on me and asked to lay face down in the street at a routine traffic stop before....so its not like i don't know how they can be.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 12:26 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:33 am to MoreOrLes
quote:Doctors, nurses, and other health professionals also deal with the lowest form of humanity as well. They seem to be able to keep their emotions in check.
Show respect and chances are you will not be mistreated. Yes cops can be arrogant power trippers but remember these folks job is dealing with the lowest form of humanity usually.
quote:Scruffy disagrees with allowing them to power trip. They should treat the rest of us with the same courtesy and respect that they demand from the peons.
So let them power trip. I for one wouldn't want their jobs for triple the pay.
Why is only one side expected to be better, and why is it always the ones with less power that are expected to bend the knee?
quote:Scruffy doesn't even have a parking ticket to his name, yet he is the one who holds cops to a higher standard?
Oh and I've had a gun drawn on me and asked to lay face down in the street at a routine traffic stop before....so its not like i don't know how they can be.
That is strange.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:35 am to MoreOrLes
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There is no reason not to comply with an Officers order.
Dear. fricking. God.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:39 am to KosmoCramer
Crazy isn't it?
And one if the more disgusting aspects of it is that they normally respond with something along the lines of, "if you comply, you save time and get to go on your way."
Makes Scruffy all warm and tingly knowing that people don't care as long as they aren't inconvenienced.
And one if the more disgusting aspects of it is that they normally respond with something along the lines of, "if you comply, you save time and get to go on your way."
Makes Scruffy all warm and tingly knowing that people don't care as long as they aren't inconvenienced.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:42 am to LSURussian
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Are you saying in Louisiana I have to carry ID with me at all times and I have to give my ID to the police anytime they request it?
The officer must first have probable cause of you being involved in criminal activity.
After that, you are required to show ID, and if you can't, it is up to the officer's discretion if he wants to arrest you till identity can be found by other means.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:42 am to MoreOrLes
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There is no reason not to comply with an Officers order.
Show respect and chances are you will not be mistreated.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 12:44 am to Volvagia
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After that, you are required to show ID, and if you can't, it is up to the officer's discretion if he wants to arrest you till identity can be found by other means.
Umm, no.
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