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re: Indiana cops bust window and use stun gun on passenger in seatbelt stop

Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
63025 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:42 pm to
I'm very much in disagreement with forcing someone to leave their vehicle just for not having a seat belt on.
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17144 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:46 pm to
You can't use, I'm scared of police as an argument to not get out the car
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39157 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:46 pm to
ya! just comply blindly!
Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10179 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:46 pm to
Exactly
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:51 pm to
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ya! just comply blindly!


Please explain your use of "blindly" here.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
63025 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:52 pm to
I've been pulled over and never been asked to get out of my vehicle. Why did this cop feel the need to ask them to step out of the vehicle? Seriously, you have to have a legitimate reason.
If a cop comes to my house and asks to look around inside, I'm going to tell him to frick off. He has no reason, nor authority to do this. And I'm sure most everyone else would do the same.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
56017 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:54 pm to
I love it when cops call people names.

No brah, you're a fricking cop. You don't get to talk down to anyone.
Posted by Tingle
1173 Tallow Tree Lane
Member since Sep 2013
4558 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:59 pm to
All I know is Hammond, LA >>>> Hammond, IN.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22215 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

I've been pulled over and never been asked to get out of my vehicle. Why did this cop feel the need to ask them to step out of the vehicle? Seriously, you have to have a legitimate reason. If a cop comes to my house and asks to look around inside, I'm going to tell him to frick off. He has no reason, nor authority to do this. And I'm sure most everyone else would do the same.


The guy narrating said that the cop had already asked the guy for his ID and he refused. That's probably why he is asking him to get out of the car.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7321 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:03 pm to
It was probably 30 minutes of the passenger not wanting to talk to them and not rolling down the window.

Why not roll down the window and take the ticket? Passenger escalated and then cops escalated in turn.

Posted by tjohn deaux
GA
Member since Feb 2007
10179 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:06 pm to
I'm not even going to argue with you. I'll comply, you tell them to go eat shite.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:14 pm to
quote:

quote:I've been pulled over and never been asked to get out of my vehicle. Why did this cop feel the need to ask them to step out of the vehicle? Seriously, you have to have a legitimate reason. If a cop comes to my house and asks to look around inside, I'm going to tell him to frick off. He has no reason, nor authority to do this. And I'm sure most everyone else would do the same. The guy narrating said that the cop had already asked the guy for his ID and he refused. That's probably why he is asking him to get out of the car.


In the article it said that he had been given a ticket and the officer refused to accept the ticket as ID. In the US you do not have to produce your "papers" on demand.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 10:18 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22215 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:16 pm to
If the cop is going to write him a seatbelt ticket he either has to provide some form of identification or he goes to jail.

I'm not familiar with this ticket you are talking about and if this is an appropriate form of ID.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127270 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:18 pm to
This story was on the national ABC news tonight. The passenger who got tazed got paid by the city but the amount was not disclosed.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

If the cop is going to write him a seatbelt ticket he either has to provide some form of identification or he goes to jail. I'm not familiar with this ticket you are talking about and if this is an appropriate form of ID.


Read the article. It says that he told the officer that he had gotten a ticket and thus didn't have his ID. The officer refused to accept the ticket as an ID.

You do not have to produce an ID on demand in the US. This officer is a fricking idiot and a count.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22215 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Read the article. It says that he told the officer that he had gotten a ticket and thus didn't have his ID. The officer refused to accept the ticket as an ID.


This is all according to the law suit. I'm not saying it's not true, but consider the source.

And some states, Louisiana being one of them, have stop and identify statutes. I don't know if a ticket would be a valid form of identification under that statute, or what a cop could do if he thought he was provided a false name.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35578 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:29 pm to
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If the cop is going to write him a seatbelt ticket he either has to provide some form of identification or he goes to jail.

How does that work when you don't have to carry ID in this country?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76821 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:31 pm to
Freedom
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17900 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:32 pm to
I posted that story in MeauxJeaux's post.

Can't defend the police on that one.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127270 posts
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

And some states, Louisiana being one of them, have stop and identify statutes.
Are you saying in Louisiana I have to carry ID with me at all times and I have to give my ID to the police anytime they request it?

I honestly don't know the answer. Please inform me.
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