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Independence / freedom and 21yo drinking age in USA

Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
2201 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:28 pm
Young American fellas / ladies can go to war to fight for their country

Vs

Adult beverage age

Reconcile these for me, please. It seems to me, if you can go to war for your country (compulsory), you should be able to drink as an adult.

Yet, not true! What gives?

In Europe they can. Why not USA?
Posted by Kenna City Solja
America’s City
Member since Nov 2025
1194 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:30 pm to
Our “freedom” is an illusion
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75858 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:30 pm to
You can drink on base with a military ID at 18.
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
2201 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:32 pm to
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On base?


Shot dead while defending USA.

But cannot drink adult beverage at bowling alley before going to war for USA.

Makes good sense?
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21930 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:32 pm to
Back in the day I got my driver’s license at 15 years old, no permit but a license. Also, could buy a bottle of whiskey at 18 years old. Gone are the good old days.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41442 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:33 pm to
Because politicians let a bunch of women, MADD, browbeat them into raising the age.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74141 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:33 pm to
Until 1942, the minimum age to be drafted into the military was 21.

Until 1971, the minimum age to vote was 21.

Instead of lowering the drinking age to 18 because you can both vote and serve in the military at that age now, we should instead go back to the age of eligibility for voting and serving in the military to 21 like they use to be.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38156 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:34 pm to
there is no conscription. You volunteer for military service. Therefore the issues aren’t related.

Besides I Thought active duty could drink regardless. Just have to
Present military ID.
Posted by Snoopy04
Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2015
3300 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:37 pm to
It's not about logic or lack there of. It's because states who don't abide by the drinking age act would lose federal highway funding.

And as someone stated above. MADD drove up huge demands for something to change.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38156 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Back in the day I got my driver’s license at 15 years old, no permit but a license. Also, could buy a bottle of whiskey at 18 years old. Gone are the good old days.


Same. Got my license at 15. Bought beer and Jager at the K&B in Summerfield in Houma. Went to Curly’s as a high school freshman and drank. Different times and different attitudes towards teen drinking.

It was glorious
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
2201 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:39 pm to
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there is no conscription. You volunteer for military service. Therefore the issues aren’t related.


Believe that?

You go to war for your country. Die potential.

No drink?

bullshite.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38156 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:44 pm to
Sounds like you make poorly informed decisions.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6516 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

if you can go to war for your country (compulsory)


Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
2201 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:49 pm to
Don’t let drinking and driving that resulted in killing people confuse!

Don’t drink and drive! That simple.

If you can go to war for USA, you should be able to drink.

You are not entitled to drink n drive. Don’t be a killer. Simple as that.

Not difficult. Don’t let it be.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 10:51 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18764 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

You can drink on base with a military ID at 18.


How old are you and when did you last serve?
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
2201 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:53 pm to
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Sounds


60-80% of schizophrenia hallucinations are auditory.

May your dopamine flow efficiently. If not, there are meds for hallucinations. Do it.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19615 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

Don’t drink and drive! That simple. If you can go to war for USA, you should be able to drink. You are not entitled to drink n drive. Don’t be a killer. Simple as that. Not difficult. Don’t let it be.


That shite doesn’t matter. The renting a car at 25 thing without a fee is way more of a pain in the arse.
This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Everyday Is Saturday
Member since Dec 2025
2201 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 10:59 pm to
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That shite doesn’t matter.


Are you a U.S. Military Veteran?

This post was edited on 7/4/26 at 11:00 pm
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10756 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 11:01 pm to
Sorry, too many distracted drivers as it is. Why allow 18-19 year olds the ability to buy alcohol then get behind the wheel?
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19615 posts
Posted on 7/4/26 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

Are you a U.S. Military Veteran?


No. Renting a car, renting a hotel, buying a hand gun are much better hills to die on than buying booze.

I may be dreaming this but does active duty military allow you to buy a hand gun at 18?
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