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re: In Louisiana, you need twice the minimum wage to afford a 2-bedroom apartment
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:58 am to Obtuse1
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:58 am to Obtuse1
pay is commensurate with skill level.
you want employers to treat their employees to charity instead of paying a wage on par with their skill level.
the motivation for more education and increasing skill set is financial. I wouldn't reward lack of education and lack of skill with more financial benefits.
How much do you think flipping a burger is worth? hourly and furthermore providing God awful customer service in the process.
you want employers to treat their employees to charity instead of paying a wage on par with their skill level.
the motivation for more education and increasing skill set is financial. I wouldn't reward lack of education and lack of skill with more financial benefits.
How much do you think flipping a burger is worth? hourly and furthermore providing God awful customer service in the process.
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Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:59 am to goofball
Then you do what all of us did when we had minimum wage jobs, get a roommate that covers the other half. Don't breed a bunch of fricks that won't contribute for 15-16 years.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:59 am to prplngldtigr
quote:wrong.. pay is commensurate with intrinsic value society and the economy place on said skill...
pay is commensurate with skill level.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:59 am to Aubie Spr96
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The job market is insane right now and it's nearly impossible for us to find anyone for less than $12/hr.
If this is the universal case then there should be no backlash for moving the minimum wage to say $11 per hour. That would not impact your business at all.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:00 am to Obtuse1
quote:I don't agree with that either......
In Louisiana, you need twice the minimum wage to afford a 2-bedroom apartment
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because the rise in cost of good sold would far out weigh it....
So you prefer to subsidize them.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:00 am to goofball
Two people as parents should easily make twice the minimum wage.
If you don’t have kids or are not married then get a roommate.
If you don’t have kids or are not married then get a roommate.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
We all know a lot of people who make <$15.00. Everyone here. Asking them about their life and finances is easy to do and might be educational.
ETA: Except Roger. Roger is an aristocrat and never crosses paths with the unwashed.
ETA: Except Roger. Roger is an aristocrat and never crosses paths with the unwashed.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 9:19 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:01 am to Cousin Key
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If all employers were forced to pay a living wage, I imagine the cost of many things would go up. That includes essential items and not just the CFA sandwich you used in your example. In that case, the poor are still subsidized by taxpayers (not just business owners) and you have no more choice in how you spend your money than you do now.
So what you are implying is we have set up a system where subsidizing low-income workers is required. If that is the case shouldn't we be working toward a system that doesn't lock us into subsidizing those workers?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:05 am to Obtuse1
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This is one of those ideas that make perfect sense at first blush however the logic falls apart with just a few seconds of thinking.
There are a significant number of adults working for at or close to minimum wage.
The issue isn't with the wages then, it's the housing market and what people charge for rent.
You can't just say, raise wages. Companies would have to offset that somewhere to stay in business.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:07 am to elprez00
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And having actually lived for a few years in a 700sf apartment, that’s not a lot of room
My wife and I started out in a 847 sq ft house, lived in it for almost 5 years. 700ft for an apartment is plenty.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:09 am to Obtuse1
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where subsidizing low-income workers is required.
Why do you think this may be? I'll give you a hint, it's caused by government.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:09 am to Obtuse1
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If that is the case shouldn't we be working toward a system that doesn't lock us into subsidizing those workers?
By forcing employers to pay a "living wage?" In that case, those employees are still being subsidized. They're just being subsidized by the employers and not directly by taxes.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:10 am to Obtuse1
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If this is the universal case then there should be no backlash for moving the minimum wage to say $11 per hour
How many adults do you know that make less than $15/hour?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:12 am to Sao
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We all know a lot of people who make <$15.00
I don't know a single person over the age of 20 who makes less. Hell, I believe the McDonalds locally pays that or close to it.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
Jesus, Roger. Fine, you're in Alaska. Come back to Louisiana or Texas. We all fricking know them. Stop being so narrow.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:13 am to goofball
Sounds like you need a roommate then.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:14 am to Sao
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Come back to Louisiana or Texas.
I've got relatives in both.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
I give up.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:17 am to Cousin Key
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By forcing employers to pay a "living wage?"
When employers are forced to pay a much higher wage, they'll purchase less labor.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:18 am to Sao
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Jesus, Roger. Fine, you're in Alaska. Come back to Louisiana or Texas. We all fricking know them. Stop being so narrow.
I don't know a single adult that makes less than $15.00. None of the blue collar people I know. Certainly none of the white collar. Now many people may end up reporting less than $15/hr on their taxes, but that's not my business.
ETA: I take it back, I know a couple housewives that make $0.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 9:19 am
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