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re: In Louisiana, you need twice the minimum wage to afford a 2-bedroom apartment
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:33 am to Capital Cajun
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:33 am to Capital Cajun
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A minimum wage job is not meant to sustain the life of a functioning adult.
It’s for high school kids to gain experience.
I'm no Albert Hawking, but how would this work in practicality? Let's think this through and explain to the OT how certain business gets done between 7a-5p.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:35 am to Capital Cajun
quote:Yes it is (that’s a talking point for dumb people), but it still shouldn’t be hard to make it in Louisiana.
A minimum wage job is not meant to sustain the life of a functioning adult.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:35 am to LCLa
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but are there really jobs that pay minimum wage in perpetuity?
nope. Most min wage jobs are for kids and job hoppers.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:38 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Wrong. Less than 3% of adults make minimum wage
First, admit you moved the goal posts twice.
The first time when you excluded the workers between 18 and 25. The OP's post that I was replying to stopped at HS graduation.
Second, I said at or close to not simply minimum wage. I was thinking anything under around $10. Though I didn't mention a figure I was clear not to limit it to exactly minimum wage.
quote:
After analyzing public-use microdata for 2013 from the Current Population Survey (the same monthly survey that underpins the BLS’s wage and employment reports), we estimate that last year about 20.6 million people — 30% of all hourly, non-self-employed workers 18 and older — are in that “near-minimum-wage” category. That includes 8.8 million people in states with minimums above $7.25, and 11.8 million in states where the federal rate applies.
LINK
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:39 am to Obtuse1
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Obtuse1
Minimum wage is not a career. While you can try and move around minimum wage job numbers compared with the available # of workers that could work that job, it doesn't help your argument at all.
Minimum wage is not a career. It is a job that requires the MINIMUM skill to be paid the MINIMUM wage. If you want to make more, go work somewhere that pays more. Hell, wal-mart pays more than minimum wage and those are also minimum wage type jobs. Minimum wage jobs are meant to a) gain experience b) provide jobs for high school kids or c) help someone get started in the working world. It is not meant to be a place you work your entire life. If you choose to work minimum wage jobs your whole life, then you either accept that you are unwilling to try harder than the minimum, b) you have a disability or c) you are lazy.
I worked minimum wage jobs as a kid and in college. I never, for 1 second, ever considered any of those jobs to be my career for the rest of my life. If i did, then i would be suffering from severe bouts of depression.
And, if you work for somewhere longer than a year and never get paid more than minimum wage, then you are a severe screwup and you are only being employed as a favor or to fill some quota.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 7:41 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:41 am to LCLa
quote:not that I support what this study is getting at... but if you’re starting at a min wage job, sure you’ll get a promotion(s) soon, but you’ll still be under $10-$12/hour for a very long which is poor as shite
Maybe I’m off base, but are there really jobs that pay minimum wage in perpetuity?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:43 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Exactly
Making more isn't always moving up and relative to the study in the OP, 10 bones an hour is still less than the 17 needed.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:50 am to Sao
quote:We do have a resident wannabe-Stephen Hawking here.
I'm no Albert Hawking
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:52 am to goofball
People on minimum wage shouldn't have families or their own places to live, they should be busy getting a skill to make a "living wage".
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:52 am to goofball
but with section 8.... you can afford it on minimum wage and... have money left for cell phone, tats, vapes and weed...... and the landowner makes bank ....
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:53 am to Sao
The vast majority of people in retail, fast food, grocery store, etc. will be making less than $12/hours for years and years
At least in the south and Midwest
At least in the south and Midwest
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:54 am to Snipe
quote:i've worked since I was 13 years old.... never at any time had a job making min. wage..... unless you count hourly pay from Naval days...
quote:
A minimum wage job is not meant to sustain the life of a functioning adult.
It’s for high school kids to gain experience.
If you are into adulthood and working minimum wage, you made a wrong turn somewhere.
This, all day long.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:55 am to xiv
quote:
Yes it is (that’s a talking point for dumb people), but it still shouldn’t be hard to make it in Louisiana
'Living wage'
Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:59 am to xiv
quote:says who?
Yes it is (that’s a talking point for dumb people), but it still shouldn’
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:01 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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but if you’re starting at a min wage job, sure you’ll get a promotion(s) soon, but you’ll still be under $10-$12/hour for a very long which is poor as shite
Which means, minimum wage is not meant to be a career. Expecting to be the dishwasher at a restaurant your whole life and not wanting your life to be hard, is silly. My suggestion, is to find roommates to split the bill, and/or try harder at life. Hell, a laborer starting out in construction makes a minimum of $15/hour (and rising). And if you aren't a screwup, you'll likely get promoted much quicker than if you were working as a stockboy at albertson's.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 8:02 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:03 am to BugAC
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And, if you work for somewhere longer than a year and never get paid more than minimum wage, then you are a severe screwup and you are only being employed as a favor or to fill some quota.
Again, I didn't say just minimum wage. According to Pew which I quoted and linked above 30% of wage workers were 10.10 or below in 2013. My point is there are not enough higher paying jobs available to take a significant chunk of those employees if they all had the skills for higher paying jobs tomorrow. The problem is even if they start at minimum wage and do a good job they will only get small raises unless they move to a more skilled job. The problem is most industries that start at or very near minimum wage don't have tons of jobs above that so a significant number will be forced into staying in the low wage position.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:06 am to goofball
A 2 bedroom for $877 a month? Sign me up. I was paying $1800 for the same thing.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:06 am to goofball
It's almost like minimum wage jobs are meant to be stepping stones for young people and not a career
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:07 am to BugAC
I agree, I’m just pointing out that “you should get promoted soon” is a silly taking point with few exceptions
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:07 am to Obtuse1
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As unemployment hovers near historic lows, over 80% of construction firms have reported they are having a hard time finding qualified workers to hire, while the U.S. Department of Education reports that there will be 68% more job openings in infrastructure-related fields in the next five years than there are people training to fill them.
Forbes
The jobs are there. People dont have the skills for anything
And most people can't pass a drug test
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