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re: I'm taking legal action against the Office of Motor Vehicles

Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:12 am to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48768 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:12 am to
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He absolutely will still pay SS taxes. But without a SS number he won't be able to collect the benefits.


I wonder if anyone has ever tried this tactic to avoid paying income taxes.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84371 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:31 am to
Your kid is going to be such a fricking weirdo if this is the shite he’s got to deal with from you just to get simple things in life.
Posted by AcadiaParishTiger
Member since Nov 2023
224 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:44 am to
Could one just opt out of the SS system? OP could do this instead of using your kid as a pawn.

And I’m pretty confident you have brainwashed him to believe he should not get one.
Posted by TigerGM
Member since Nov 2014
1124 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:52 am to
Don’t be a pussy. Your son will need get get a SS# to survive in the real world.
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1794 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:57 am to
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Why doesn't he have a Social security number? If he want's to get one, he's perfectly free to do so. I'm not signing my son up for a federal investment program that offers horrible returns that he can't opt out of, ever. If he wants to do this, he's more than capable as an adult.


Do you plan on him ever having a job?
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1794 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:58 am to
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Could one just opt out of the SS system?


I think you can if you are clergy.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41257 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 5:58 am to
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Isn’t a SSN needed for a job for tax purposes? You’re making your son’s life complicated just to make a point he didn’t ask you to make. I mean yea the dmv is shite but this is dumb.


Don’t most colleges require SS numbers during application?
Posted by WhiskeyThief
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2018
591 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:11 am to
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Railroad employees don't pay social security taxes.


Teachers don’t either !
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60620 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:20 am to
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You may see this as pointless and futile. That's ok. I see it as an obligation as an American to preserve the rights we were given, no matter how small and pointless folks like yourself may think that is.
you can’t overestimate how stupid I think this is.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12783 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:21 am to
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Your kid is going to be such a fricking weirdo if this is the shite he’s got to deal with from you just to get simple things in life.


I feel this is one path to how people eventually claim to be Sovereign Citizens.
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
962 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:29 am to
Keep us posted this very interesting and kinda smart, I guess. Maybe alot of headache as well. But having a job etc without one would and will be a pain in the arse for him.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20165 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:30 am to
Do you have insurance on your son? Is he the beneficiary of any kind of insurance policy of yours? Is he ever going to have a job? A bank account? Buy a house?

Are you one of those sovereign citizen people?

I’m all for pushing back on the government bullshite but I’m not hamstringing my kid over it.
Posted by potent357
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2010
4210 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:31 am to
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a veteran
Did you receive a military ID number? Why would you allow it?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:39 am to
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If you HAVE a social security number you HAVE to disclose it. That said, if you don't have one, this doesn't apply to you.
Can you cite the law (case or statutory) that says this?
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27440 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:43 am to
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there is no requirement or law for anyone, anywhere to sign up for social security


But don't you think it would make his life easier if he had one ?

Like:

Getting a learners permit

Applying for jobs or college, they run your credit and criminal history using it.

Or filling Taxes etc

Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
5899 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:44 am to
has the DMV stated in writing that he is denied?or just dragging it out?looks like you have a case.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27419 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 6:49 am to
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Me giving him his choice also means I can't deduct him from my taxes. If that's what it costs, so be it.

Overpayment of taxes to stick it to the man.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2757 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 7:18 am to
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has the DMV stated in writing that he is denied?or just dragging it out?looks like you have a case.


They have outright denied him twice.

It is their policy to deny this and it’s against both state and federal law. DMV Policy 41.00

Oh and yes, I have their denial in writing.
This post was edited on 11/9/24 at 7:19 am
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
5860 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 7:21 am to
Does this have anything to do with you not wanting your son registered with selective service?

How would you have prospered in life without a SS#?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138138 posts
Posted on 11/9/24 at 7:27 am to
Is this some sovereign citizen or free traveler bullshite?
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