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re: I'm taking legal action against the Office of Motor Vehicles
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:03 am to eitek1
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:03 am to eitek1
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I won and my son got his TIP card two days ago. Thus all made the OT even madder. Particularly Dr.EdgeLSU, who appears to be irrationally mad, but I may know why.
I’m not mad, I think it’s ridiculous you had to take it this far.
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Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:18 am to OceanMan
quote:Minors should withhold FICA unless they're employed by their parents (I think it might extend to grandparents and direct blood relatives but I'd have to look it up)
Minors do not pay FICA either.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:24 am to The Nino
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Minors should withhold FICA unless they're employed by their parents
Only if it's a sole proprietorship or partnership where both parents are the partners.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:25 am to eitek1
I didn’t get a Social Security number until I turned 16 and needed one to go to work.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:30 am to eitek1
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Particularly Dr.EdgeLSU, who appears to be irrationally mad, but I may know why.
It's because he's a ginger.
By the way, congrats. I'm glad you won. I don't think what you're doing is a bad thing, but I just don't get why you refuse to get your son something as harmless as a SSN. That decision will 100% affect his life negatively down the road (more than it already has), and it just doesn't make much rational sense, regardless of how "right" you are about this particular situation re: the learner's permit.
You know I'm a fan of your bullshite, and I'm glad you stuck to it and reached the finish line victorious on this. But I'm just not sure it's ultimately worth it for your son.
This post was edited on 4/14/25 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:33 am to jclem11
quote:But the laws he provided say for those certain things he does not to provide a SSN. So isn’t he playing by the rules?
You want to drive on publicly funded roads, you play by the rules set out by the government.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:35 am to eitek1
I was never mad and I applaud determination on your part. I just personally felt making life more difficult for your son when life is already cumbersome is unnecessary.
Maybe I'm just a lazy bum.
Grats on giving it to the 'man'.... and watching your auto premiums triple
Maybe I'm just a lazy bum.
Grats on giving it to the 'man'.... and watching your auto premiums triple
Posted on 4/14/25 at 8:38 am to CocomoLSU
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But I'm just not sure it's ultimately worth it for your son.
Oh, it's not.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:10 am to SuperSaint
I appreciate the support and understanding.
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I just personally felt making life more difficult for your son when life is already cumbersome is unnecessary
I'll maybe expand on this a bit. For those who think I'm making my sons life more difficult, it's really not.
I'll admit, it's delaying him from getting his actual drivers license by about a month. If the DMV hadn't requested an extension for the legal proceedings, he would have received his license the day he turned 16.
Growing into a fully developed, capable adult is about experiencing all sorts of things. My son has traveled the world, stood on pyramids, walked through Notre Dame cathedral and so on. This was part of that. My son now knows about what it takes to defend your rights, first hand. He's seen it AND participated in it. On top of that, he was victorious. He was just mad I was the one named in the filing and not him.
Would it have been easier just to go get a social security card, probably. But... It'll be just as easy tomorrow as it would have been 16 years ago.
Was this an unusual place to expend these resources, probably. It was a learning experience for my son. I want to raise someone that will always do the right thing, no matter what, no matter the cost. In that respect, it's worth it.
I get folks won't understand. You're probably more flexible on your stances and are willing to take the easy path, even if it's not technically correct and violates your rights a little bit. I'm not, and I'm raising a son that I hope shares my conviction.
If he gets a Social Security number a month from now, I'd be OK with it, as long as it's his decision. I've said this since my first post. He now understands what it takes to undertake something like this.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:21 am to CocomoLSU
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It's because he's a ginger.
+100
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:23 am to eitek1
i think i speak for a large majority of the other OTers here, but this is a really fricking weird hill to die on, my dude...
of all the causes to be so passionate about, you picked one of the dumbest...
but congrats on the "success", i guess.... i'm sure you feel great about it and all, but yeah... we all think you are a virtue signaling asshat doing this for your own self-validation, but whatever... life your life, bro
of all the causes to be so passionate about, you picked one of the dumbest...
but congrats on the "success", i guess.... i'm sure you feel great about it and all, but yeah... we all think you are a virtue signaling asshat doing this for your own self-validation, but whatever... life your life, bro
Posted on 4/14/25 at 9:32 am to chRxis
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of all the causes to be so passionate about, you picked one of the dumbest..
Since you are speaking for the majority of the OT, I have a question. Where is your line?
What would it take for you to start pushing back? I'm honestly curious. At what point would you say "I might need to do something"? Is there a dollar amount, or how would you quantify what is enough?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:37 am to eitek1
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Since you are speaking for the majority of the OT, I have a question. Where is your line?
What would it take for you to start pushing back? I'm honestly curious. At what point would you say "I might need to do something"? Is there a dollar amount, or how would you quantify what is enough?
bruh, life is way too short to be concerned about something so fricking stupid... in the grand scheme of life, this is just such an insignificant thing to be so concerned as to waste all that time and energy worrying about....
with all your self-righteous zealotry, what did you honestly accomplish that made life all that much better for everyone involved? dunno, bro... you just look really silly... it's such a trivial non-issue to like 99.5% of the population, but yet you crusaded on it like it was the absolute most important thing ever... but, again, you do you bro... live your life... just don't be surprised when the rest of think you are a complete and utter "look at me" jackass, championing a totally inane cause
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:46 am to chRxis
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bruh, life is way too short to be concerned about something so fricking stupid... in the grand scheme of life, this is just such an insignificant thing to be so concerned as to waste all that time and energy worrying about....
I understand you feel this way but you still didn't answer my rather simple question.
What would it take for you to start pushing back?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:48 am to chRxis
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think i speak for a large majority of the other OTers here, but this is a really fricking weird hill to die on, my dude... of all the causes to be so passionate about, you picked one of the dumbest... but congrats on the "success", i guess.... i'm sure you feel great about it and all, but yeah... we all think you are a virtue signaling asshat doing this for your own self-validation, but whatever... life your life, bro
It all kind of depends on the framing I guess?
I’d agree that the literal issue is kind of silly but if extrapolated to broader strokes of government growth and often reaching further than policy actually allows… that’s an important lesson both for son and OMV employees. We just don’t talk about regulating our government in that way much as a society.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 10:49 am to eitek1
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I understand you feel this way but you still didn't answer my rather simple question.
What would it take for you to start pushing back?
Personally, I wouldn't push back on anything that makes my life easier. I only have one of them.
I'd take $20 from my worst enemy if he handed it to me.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:05 am to eitek1
quote:im certain you've probably already coved this throughout the thread way back when....
eitek1
The past 16 years have you been able to claim tax deductions without him having a SS#? Also what about 529s, college savings, other financial accounts?
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:11 am to eitek1
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I want to raise someone that will always do the right thing, no matter what, no matter the cost. In that respect, it's worth it.
I get folks won't understand. You're probably more flexible on your stances and are willing to take the easy path, even if it's not technically correct and violates your rights a little bit. I'm not, and I'm raising a son that I hope shares my conviction.
You sure are one self-righteous MFer I'll give you that. Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:11 am to IAmNERD
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One thing I've learned from my time here is that eitek1 will follow through. The stolen motorcycle thread was a shining example of that. He either has a shitload of free time or has a certain flavor of 'tism that will not let him leave unfinished business on the table.
I certaiy wouldn't want to run afoul of him. I simply don't have the time
He's the kind of guy I'd like to hang out with once a month just to throw shite against the wall and hear stories, etc.
Dude's an original. People should embrace that, not call him an idiot.
Posted on 4/14/25 at 11:13 am to DrEdgeLSU
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The situation that you created (yes, you created it) caused the harm.
This is just poor logic.
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