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Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/26/18 at 4:58 pm to
Unless you can afford a top lawyer, it won't matter. Take your PD and save your money.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:00 pm to
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I was suspicious of a murder years back


What raised your suspicion?
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88347 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:00 pm to
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was suspicious of a murder years back and had to get a lawyer. Craziest experience I have ever had. The lawyer helped me in ways I could have never done without him

Get one if you are even a suspect. Dont say shite to the police until you do.
you're not going to post this and just leave
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:01 pm to
yes. if it was just a regular stop or something like a checkpoint, you dont need one.

now if you blew some crazy number and/or got in a wreck or something more serious, yea you definitely need one

They want your money. They dont care about public safety
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26236 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:02 pm to
Our local public defender lawyers are all experienced criminal trial lawyers.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:02 pm to
Read my post on the thread about "side piece". That will tell you what you need to know.

Yes lawyers are needed very much in some situations when dealing with wheeling dealing detectives. Paramount.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:03 pm to
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I was suspicious of a murder years back and had to get a lawyer. Craziest experience I have ever had


I've seen the way you post. I could believe it.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:05 pm to


I try to not hurt insects I'm such a softy.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:05 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144681 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:13 pm to
Are public defenders less qualified than public prosecutors?
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10387 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:15 pm to
quote:

PD lawyer representing you as you would if you could hire the average lawyer?


From the Public Defenders I have seen I would opt to represent myself.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21433 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:33 pm to
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I was suspicious of a murder years back and had to get a lawyer. Craziest experience I have ever had. The lawyer helped me in ways I could have never done without him


The night i got drug in and questioned on a double homicide coincided with my arrest warrant being served for cultivation. My attorney was heading to the end of the year bar gala, where he was the honoree for that year. So i fought that interview solo, despite his insistence. He did get my firearm returned to me after it cleared fdle labs. I was still on felony probation I did walked out of a police station, cuffed in front, and retrieve a loaded firearm during a murder interview worst idea I've ever heard of in my life, totally thought i was being setup for execution.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:40 pm to
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would you feel just as confident having a PD lawyer representing you as you would if you could hire the average lawyer?


That depends. Is my crime one that requires expert witnesses?

Public defenders spend a lot of time dealing with the prosecutors and judges. If it was what I'd call a "normal" case, I'd be fine with my public defender. If it were a case where I'd need dna experts, forensic experts, medical experts, etc, I wouldnt want the public defender's budget paying for my case.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:50 pm to
Many PD's are dedicated to their jobs and do it to truly help those who can't afford representation. Many others do it because they didn't have any other option. It's luck of the draw.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:54 pm to
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Are public defenders less qualified than public prosecutors?



Again, mixed bag. District Attorneys tend to be a little more picky than PD's offices in the hiring process. You're representing the state as a prosecutor. You're representing poor people as a PD.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184676 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:07 pm to
Why did you stop making up that you had friends that this happened to with your threads?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:08 pm to
You're fricked.

Our CJ system is horrible
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1631 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:29 pm to
Apply for court-appointed counsel. I practice in Kansas, so I don't know the structure of courts where you are located, but many states follow an appointment structure where if you are charged with a felony, you get someone from the public defender's office. If you are charged with a traffic or misdemeanor offense, you get a contract attorney (i.e., someone in the local bar who has agreed to be court appointed counsel in such matters).

Most public defenders are good criminal defense attorneys. Indeed, the public defender's office in most places is the professional criminal defense firm--that's all they do. Typically, the public defender's office is going to have its finger on the pulse of the most recent developments in criminal law. The drawback is that they're young and busy. They have virtually no control over their caseload, they're always stuck in jury trials, always meeting with clients at the jail when they're not in court. And there is a lot of turnover. One plus that these folks have is that they're typically supervised by someone with extensive trial experience (who is also extremely busy).

The misdemeanor court-appointed attorney is typically experienced, but just as busy. Because if you're on a local contract, you have your own practice plus you're the person who gets called in to handle involuntary commitment cases, child neglect emergency hearings, juvenile offender cases, etc. These are overly busy people who are also limited in their opportunities to dig deep into a single case. The upside: experience. They know the judges (probably used to be law partners with a few of them), they know the prosecutors, and they know the community.

Either way, they're both better options than many private attorneys, and they're exponentially better than hiring someone who rarely walks into a criminal court. So, if you're going to hire someone, you better make sure that their primary practice is criminal law and that they have a lot of experience.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122534 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

Unless you can afford a top lawyer, it won't matter. Take your PD and save your money.


So it's safe to say a PD is as good as an average lawyer?
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
198122 posts
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:22 pm to
I hope im on your jury

you're getting the chair...


no a different one


you piece of shite
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