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Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:00 pm to reo45
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I was suspicious of a murder years back
What raised your suspicion?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:00 pm to reo45
quote:you're not going to post this and just leave
was suspicious of a murder years back and had to get a lawyer. Craziest experience I have ever had. The lawyer helped me in ways I could have never done without him
Get one if you are even a suspect. Dont say shite to the police until you do.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:01 pm to OweO
yes. if it was just a regular stop or something like a checkpoint, you dont need one.
now if you blew some crazy number and/or got in a wreck or something more serious, yea you definitely need one
They want your money. They dont care about public safety
now if you blew some crazy number and/or got in a wreck or something more serious, yea you definitely need one
They want your money. They dont care about public safety
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:02 pm to OweO
Our local public defender lawyers are all experienced criminal trial lawyers.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:02 pm to castorinho
Read my post on the thread about "side piece". That will tell you what you need to know.
Yes lawyers are needed very much in some situations when dealing with wheeling dealing detectives. Paramount.
Yes lawyers are needed very much in some situations when dealing with wheeling dealing detectives. Paramount.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:03 pm to reo45
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I was suspicious of a murder years back and had to get a lawyer. Craziest experience I have ever had
I've seen the way you post. I could believe it.
This post was edited on 1/26/18 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:05 pm to slackster
I try to not hurt insects I'm such a softy.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:13 pm to OweO
Are public defenders less qualified than public prosecutors?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:15 pm to OweO
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PD lawyer representing you as you would if you could hire the average lawyer?
From the Public Defenders I have seen I would opt to represent myself.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 5:33 pm to reo45
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I was suspicious of a murder years back and had to get a lawyer. Craziest experience I have ever had. The lawyer helped me in ways I could have never done without him
The night i got drug in and questioned on a double homicide coincided with my arrest warrant being served for cultivation. My attorney was heading to the end of the year bar gala, where he was the honoree for that year. So i fought that interview solo, despite his insistence. He did get my firearm returned to me after it cleared fdle labs. I was still on felony probation
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:40 pm to OweO
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would you feel just as confident having a PD lawyer representing you as you would if you could hire the average lawyer?
That depends. Is my crime one that requires expert witnesses?
Public defenders spend a lot of time dealing with the prosecutors and judges. If it was what I'd call a "normal" case, I'd be fine with my public defender. If it were a case where I'd need dna experts, forensic experts, medical experts, etc, I wouldnt want the public defender's budget paying for my case.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:50 pm to OweO
Many PD's are dedicated to their jobs and do it to truly help those who can't afford representation. Many others do it because they didn't have any other option. It's luck of the draw.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 6:54 pm to Rebel
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Are public defenders less qualified than public prosecutors?
Again, mixed bag. District Attorneys tend to be a little more picky than PD's offices in the hiring process. You're representing the state as a prosecutor. You're representing poor people as a PD.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:07 pm to OweO
Why did you stop making up that you had friends that this happened to with your threads?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:08 pm to OweO
You're fricked.
Our CJ system is horrible
Our CJ system is horrible
Posted on 1/26/18 at 7:29 pm to OweO
Apply for court-appointed counsel. I practice in Kansas, so I don't know the structure of courts where you are located, but many states follow an appointment structure where if you are charged with a felony, you get someone from the public defender's office. If you are charged with a traffic or misdemeanor offense, you get a contract attorney (i.e., someone in the local bar who has agreed to be court appointed counsel in such matters).
Most public defenders are good criminal defense attorneys. Indeed, the public defender's office in most places is the professional criminal defense firm--that's all they do. Typically, the public defender's office is going to have its finger on the pulse of the most recent developments in criminal law. The drawback is that they're young and busy. They have virtually no control over their caseload, they're always stuck in jury trials, always meeting with clients at the jail when they're not in court. And there is a lot of turnover. One plus that these folks have is that they're typically supervised by someone with extensive trial experience (who is also extremely busy).
The misdemeanor court-appointed attorney is typically experienced, but just as busy. Because if you're on a local contract, you have your own practice plus you're the person who gets called in to handle involuntary commitment cases, child neglect emergency hearings, juvenile offender cases, etc. These are overly busy people who are also limited in their opportunities to dig deep into a single case. The upside: experience. They know the judges (probably used to be law partners with a few of them), they know the prosecutors, and they know the community.
Either way, they're both better options than many private attorneys, and they're exponentially better than hiring someone who rarely walks into a criminal court. So, if you're going to hire someone, you better make sure that their primary practice is criminal law and that they have a lot of experience.
Most public defenders are good criminal defense attorneys. Indeed, the public defender's office in most places is the professional criminal defense firm--that's all they do. Typically, the public defender's office is going to have its finger on the pulse of the most recent developments in criminal law. The drawback is that they're young and busy. They have virtually no control over their caseload, they're always stuck in jury trials, always meeting with clients at the jail when they're not in court. And there is a lot of turnover. One plus that these folks have is that they're typically supervised by someone with extensive trial experience (who is also extremely busy).
The misdemeanor court-appointed attorney is typically experienced, but just as busy. Because if you're on a local contract, you have your own practice plus you're the person who gets called in to handle involuntary commitment cases, child neglect emergency hearings, juvenile offender cases, etc. These are overly busy people who are also limited in their opportunities to dig deep into a single case. The upside: experience. They know the judges (probably used to be law partners with a few of them), they know the prosecutors, and they know the community.
Either way, they're both better options than many private attorneys, and they're exponentially better than hiring someone who rarely walks into a criminal court. So, if you're going to hire someone, you better make sure that their primary practice is criminal law and that they have a lot of experience.
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:16 pm to slackster
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Unless you can afford a top lawyer, it won't matter. Take your PD and save your money.
So it's safe to say a PD is as good as an average lawyer?
Posted on 1/26/18 at 8:22 pm to OweO
I hope im on your jury
you're getting the chair...
no a different one
you piece of shite
you're getting the chair...
no a different one
you piece of shite
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