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re: If you knew that there was/wasn't an after life, would it change how you live your life?

Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:19 am to
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:19 am to
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Well, think of it this way: Every atom that is part of your make-up will remain unchanged. It's just the way they interact that defines you, after all. Now apply infinity. At some point you'll exist again.






But what about proton decay and whatnot?
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 9:23 am
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:24 am to
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There is no afterlife. Just blackout...loss of conciousness. Any other notion is just a way to cope with that fact.


And so exactly why should people believe you over anything else? Have you been there to show your thoughts on the matter have validity over people of faith?

Get serious man. You have an opinion. Guess what? So does everybody else. You’re not special.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:30 am to
Some opinions are more likely true than others.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:36 am to
Most everybody does that now, so . . . not much different.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:58 am to
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Would you be more giving of yourself if there was a god or give into your temptations and not care about how your actions affect anyone but your self?

Temptations to do or not do what? What's your benchmark, your plumb line to determine right behavior from wrong and whether or not the temptations are in a right or wrong direction?

And are there any consequences, positive or negative, to caving in to your temptations? And, do you really care one way or the other?

How were you raised? What did your parents and grandparents teach you?

Because if you think the answer is here on the OT...we'll, you get shite like a fictional quote from a fictional TV detective expressing his fictional hard-bitten attitude to real questions that go to the heart of what we all want to know. Why am I here? What is life about and what's its purpose? What happens when I die?

Good and legitimate questions one and all. Really only two options though: Upon death, total nothingness or eternal life existing beyond physical death of the body. So, my advice fwiw is to find a legitimate pastor or priest who is a real believer and intellectually acute to explore one option and research the other as best you can. (PS Don't go to one of those blasphemous health/prosperity/wealth preachers like the guy fleecing his flock for a jet. They have no clue as to what Christianity is about.)

I'm know what I believe and profess and because I have wrestled with your questions I take you seriously
and pray you find some answers and peace.
Posted by Scoobie
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:59 am to
If heaven ain’t a lot like Dixie, I don’t wanna go!
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43534 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:00 am to
We will shed our physical bodies and move toward a digital lifeform that is never-ending.
Posted by jeeperscreepers
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:31 am to
if you're living your life only doing things one way or the other because of fear of being punished, you might want to reevaluate. I've never understood why so many people have no problem believing in a god who says "Love me, or I'll punish you horribly for all of eternity". It's like walking around on eggshells your entire life hoping you do things just right, or at least hoping for that last minute Bart Simpson deathbed prayer at just the right moment.

I can't imagine living like that, worrying that i might be hit by car before i have a chance to ask forgiveness for coveting thy neighbors wife for the 6th time today.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 10:39 am to
There’s always an authority figure lurking somewhere you will have to abide by. Every single day.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:21 am to
I would like to believe there is something after death for the good of course . Seeing deceased friends and family being in a better place etc...Im thankful for what i have and what i have accomplished. I believe im a good person. Could i be better? Yes. We all could be in some shape or form.
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:28 am to
If you knew there was some sort of after life but didn't know anything else about it (i.e. whether it was similar to Christian beliefs, Matrix Sci-Fi, etc.) AND that everything else in your life was simply a computer program (i.e. you may be the only 'real' part), would it change how you lived?
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:32 am to
I may not donate as many millions of dollars to charity and volunteer at the children’s hospital less
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 12:57 pm to
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If you knew that there was/wasn't an after life, would it change how you live your life?


No. Because that is exactly how I live my life now.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 3:03 pm to
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But what about proton decay and whatnot?


In particle physics, proton decay is a hypothetical form of radioactive decay in which the proton decays into lighter subatomic particles, such as a neutral pion and a positron. The proton decay hypothesis was first formulated by Andrei Sakharov in 1967. There is currently no experimental evidence that proton decay occurs. -Wiki
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5897 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 5:03 pm to
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Yet they always seem to poo poo the idea of the supernatural. I find this fascinating.


Two very good reasons for it:

1. There is no conclusive proof that anything we might call supernatural exists in any form. No proof of deities, ghosts, aliens, etc.

2. Supernatural explanations have been put forth and then cast away for thousands of years. They never stick. Not once. Angry deities don’t cause thunder, demons don’t cause diseases, etc. It’s shortsighted to think any explanation might have a supernatural cause without indisputable evidence for it. History clearly tells us it’s better to defer to a future understanding for things we can’t explain today. People want all the answers now, but it’s okay to say, “I don’t know.”

One day in the future people are going to think about Jesus kind of like how we think about Zeus, a silly thing people believed thousands of years ago.

It baffles me how people can be religious when it is so clearly a cultural thing that is 99% based on where you live and how you’re raised instead of real soul searching. But people are so desperate to escape death, to have a security blanket, for a way to cope with loss and tough times, etc., that they believe nonsense because the alternative is too hard for them.
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:14 pm to
My luck those that believe go to heaven and those that don't have nothingness. A real life choose your own adventure.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Well let me say this.
If I am right to believe that there is a Heaven and a Hell then I am a winner regardless. If I die and go to Heaven then I have overcome the world and if I die and there is nothing then I didn’t lose anything so no fear on my part. On the other hand, if I am right then the eternity that you and non believers will be the worst thing imaginable. I pray that the fear would be yours.




I hope you don't think you are the first person to think of this. And I think its an awfully selfish opinion, not really something that should be rewarded with eternal life.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:57 pm to
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Side note, belivers in Christ aren’t held to a good/bad behavior list. If your believe he is the savior of our sins then you will be rewarded eternity. Example, the criminal on the cross next to Jesus who proclaimed his belief that Jesus was the Lord.


you sure?

Might want to double check that
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:00 pm to
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I'm going to go with the thousands of years and texts that were written that say otherwise. Between Christianity, Judaism, and Muslim - and different versions of afterlife in other wordly religions.


These are people that didn't even know germ theory, didn't know the earth was round, and wiped their arse with their hand. Why do you think they understood the meaning of life?
Posted by JabarkusRussell
Member since Jul 2009
15825 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:27 pm to
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Well, think of it this way: Every atom that is part of your make-up will remain unchanged. It's just the way they interact that defines you, after all.



Thanks for that. It makes it somewhat more reassuring to think about death in that context. Ultimately, religion and the thought of "Paradise" were created by pre-civilized man who thought the earth was flat and that there were no other planets.
This post was edited on 5/29/18 at 9:31 pm
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