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re: If we REALLY cared about health care professionals...

Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:33 pm to
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Show me where Blackwater invaded Iraq. Either time.


They didn't invaded, but they did have boots on the ground. More so for high profile people protection. Have a family member that works for them. Try to get any info out of him is impossible. He was a Seal at one time.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79876 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:33 pm to
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isn’t designed to save lives, it’s designed to make money. Stocking enough spare ventilators


Have we run out of ventilators yet?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79876 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Try to get any info out of him is impossible.


Trying to get blood from a turnip
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:37 pm to
I am a health care professional and you are invited to frick right off.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38559 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:44 pm to
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If we REALLY cared about health care professionals...



We would increase Medicare and Medicaid payments across the board and ensure as many people have private insurance as possible so when all this is done they make bank. I think your suggestion is like making this hell go on for eternity for doctors.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63976 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:46 pm to
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If we REALLY cared about health care professionals...
We sure as hell wouldn't cut their salaries to what doctors in socialized medicine countries make. You realize many docs in the UK have second jobs?
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11338 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:47 pm to
Not saying there isn’t a role for the private sector—obviously we need their manufacturing capacity to provide materiel. 3M makes a damn good mask. But there’s a good reason Boeing doesn’t plan wars. Someone has to decide how many JDAMs and MREs to buy, because industry will only make what they can sell. And that person works for the government. Three months ago the secretary of a nationalized health department could have started placing orders for PPE and vents. But they didn’t. And that’s what got us where we are now.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 9:19 pm
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11338 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:53 pm to
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We sure as hell wouldn't cut their salaries to what doctors in socialized medicine countries make

You mean the way one health care corporation just CUT benefits, for those on the front lines of the crisis?
Tenet Health Cuts Benefits
While the government just demonstrated the ability to mobilize trillions?
Yeah, we can always trust the private sector to do the right thing, and to have sufficient resources to do so!
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 8:54 pm
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9324 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Yeah, we can always trust the private sector to do the right thing, and to have sufficient resources to do so!


But we can trust the government with their own mandates? The same govt 24 trillion in debt with ~40 trillion in unfounded liabilities?

No thanks
Posted by RockChalkTiger
A Little Bit South of Saskatoon
Member since May 2009
11338 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:03 pm to
When’s the last time the Army ran out of bullets?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70170 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19320 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:31 pm to
How fricking high are you right now?
Or are you tripping balls?
Or are you just DUMB?
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 10:11 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:33 pm to
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When’s the last time the Army ran out of bullets?


Don’t know, but in 2017 they misplaced and lost $720 million dollars worth of ammunition in Afghanistan, but no problem, it’s just taxpayer money, order some more.!
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
9324 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:50 pm to
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When’s the last time the Army ran out of bullets?


Well, we weren't really talking about that now were we? Good try to deflect from the glaring government incompetents proven time and time again.

By the way, the strategic national stockpile I mentioned earlier is government owned/run...and they didn't restock as they should have after H1N1 (Blaming both administrations here). That, on its own, has proven that government shouldn't be anywhere close to running healthcare and wanting to nationalize it is just a terrible idea altogether. We are doing a bang up job and are handling it better than any other nation. I cannot say the say for the Europeans' nationalize healthcare system.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 9:55 pm to
Just popping in as a healthcare professional to let you know I think your idea is awful.
Please stick to your dayjob.
The system is failing because of government involvement more than anything else.
I, and many like me, don't want more governmental involvement in healthcare. I want way, way less.
Posted by Foreskinski
Member since Dec 2005
1138 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/9/20 at 12:17 pm
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8720 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

quote:
We sure as hell wouldn't cut their salaries to what doctors in socialized medicine countries make

You mean the way one health care corporation just CUT benefits, for those on the front lines of the crisis?
Tenet Health Cuts Benefits
While the government just demonstrated the ability to mobilize trillions?
Yeah, we can always trust the private sector to do the right thing, and to have sufficient resources to do so!


You didn't answer the question, nimrod. Physicians and nurses in the U.S. make a lot more than almost any other developed country in the world - like 2 - 3X or more. It's not even close. A quick Google search would tell you that.

As a former soldier myself, you're embarrassing yourself with this. The industrial economics of the military and healthcare are nothing alike.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:57 pm to
How do you know we have or we will run out of ventilators as you say?

Why can’t we be thankful the private sector geared up and launched into producing masks, ventilators, and other equipment for all over the country, instead of hoping / dreaming / wishing that big government could somehow do better?
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
12044 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 10:57 pm to
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...we would never make them go through this again. Despite their heroic efforts, the system is failing them. A private, for-profit health care system isn’t designed to save lives, it’s designed to make money. Stocking enough spare ventilators and PPE for a major pandemic isn’t cost effective which is why no one did it. Only a nationalized, public health care system can respond to this kind of tragedy, as well as making sure every citizen has access to affordable, quality health care and make sure that families aren’t bankrupted in medical emergencies. And we’re still going to pay for it, one way or another.
We don’t outsource our national defense to private, for-profit corporations and we have the best military in the world. We can, and should, do the same with health care. It’s the least we can do for all those who are sacrificing so much, including their lives, for us right now.


lol did you copy and paste this from another FJW (Facebook Justice Warrior)?

if you indeed did write this on your own, then congrats. you win the best FJW of the week award!
phenomenal virtue signaling!
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