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re: If fast food restaurants didn't exist, would you be any healthier?

Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:55 am to
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Did you lose height too? Or were you wearing stilletto heals in the pic on the left ?

You appear to be standing the same distance from the washer/dryer behind you and holding the phone at the same level.

Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16655 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 10:59 am to
Do you guys claiming that you would be healthier if fast food didn't exist actually believe the same impulse to eat there would not be replaced by an impulse to have a different type of unhealthy food? Why assume it would cause you to make healthier choices?

They have salads, but you're not choosing that. You want a burger or something fried, right? Why wouldn't that impulse just drive you to get a burger and something fried at a more expensive restaurant ?
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 11:02 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:00 am to
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 I think the whole experience that's goes with eating out is addictive


Just do it differently. E.g., I'm walking in now to meet a friend at my favorite Mexican joint. I'll order a stuffed poblano with egg, pulled pork, cheese, sour cream, and avocado, w unsweet tea (if it were dinner a good tequila w lime and a side car Miller Lite).

It's not that hard. Skip the chips, rice and beans. That is the cheap crap they fill you up with anyway that leaves you bloated and hungry. And once you start drinking alcohol with no sugar, it's hard to imagine drinking a sticky nasty margarita. I'd probably yack.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 11:01 am
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20500 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:00 am to
I don't eat fast food and I'm not "unhealthy or healthy. I doubt I'd be any different if I did eat fast food.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35330 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:03 am to
If you aren't healthy then it's only a matter of time before you are unhealthy (if not already). Visceral fat, organ fat, insulin resistance, clogged arteries. A pandemic that hasn't even really hit yet.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
11089 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:07 am to
Ignore the down vote, Mclemore. That was an accident
Posted by Sparkplug#1
Member since May 2013
7352 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:08 am to
I wouldn't be getting hit on by the girls at the drive thru saying "my pleasure".
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37062 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:17 am to
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Wouldn't affect my daily routine, but I'd definitely be eating healthier at 2 a.m.


Truth.

I almost have to go out of my way to eat fast food. It definitely isn't in the normal rotation.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 11:21 am to
Is pizza fast food?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39867 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:15 pm to
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They have salads, but you're not choosing that. You want a burger or something fried, right? Why wouldn't that impulse just drive you to get a burger and something fried at a more expensive restaurant ?


Burgers (sans bun) and fried foods (in the right type of oil) are good for you.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:21 pm to
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Losing weight is a difficult, agonizing process


I've lost 35lbs since May and it wasn't difficult or agonizing. I'm doing a HFLC diet(high fat low carb) and it's amazingly hard to eat over 1500 calories a day when your calories come from fat and not carbs. My bloodwork is great too. Easiest diet I've ever done.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60681 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:23 pm to
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Once you break the conception that food is an experience it becomes very easy.
screw everything about that
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39867 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:26 pm to
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I've lost 35lbs since May and it wasn't difficult or agonizing. I'm doing a HFLC diet(high fat low carb) and it's amazingly hard to eat over 1500 calories a day when your calories come from fat and not carbs. My bloodwork is great too. Easiest diet I've ever done.


Basically same story for me. McLemore has it right in that the focus should be on re-orienting macro-nutrient allocations.

I do not dispute that pure calorie counting - if adhered to - leads to weight loss outcomes. But proper macro-nutrient allocation leads to better health outcomes...with the side benefit of weight loss and better feeling.

GoldenNugget's selfies are a good example of how even thin people are way fatter than they think they are. Your "hunter/gatherer" weight is probably at least 10 pounds (if not 15 or 20) lighter than what you think of as already being thin.

I ate at Chipotle yesterday and had a burrito bowl...sans the rice, beans or chips. Instead, I had them load it up with extra meat, cheese, veggies and guac. I can report that it took zero will power to happily eat that whole huge delicious thing - AND it was better for me.
Posted by jakedel12
Dallas, Texas
Member since Nov 2006
1449 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:35 pm to
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Burgers (sans bun) and fried foods (in the right type of oil) are good for you




Idiot!!

Maybe frying it in a different type of oil is "better" than another oil, but it is never good for you
Posted by thibtigerfan
Thibodaux
Member since Aug 2006
2460 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:38 pm to
I know Keto is the big thing here or high fat. But you can go high carb/protein low fat and get great results as well. It really matters where you get your carbs from. Carbs coming from rice, oats, veggies, fruits will fill you up. People do IIFYM and want to eat ANYTHING, and while you may lose weight, you won't necessarily be any healthier.


I lost 100lbs (given it was over a few years) but my diet has continually evolved and I have enjoyed the process. My base is IIFYM but I do it with natural food sources, not processed pop tarts and snickers bars.


Just wanted to give a different perspective if someone rathers carbs, then there are different options. I get my fats from a eggs and almond butter mostly and that's what I enjoy.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39867 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:53 pm to
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Maybe frying it in a different type of oil is "better" than another oil, but it is never good for you


The breading is never good for you, but healthy oils are exactly that - healthy. That is, you should be deliberately allocating a certain portion of your intake to them.

This would include: coconut oil, avocado oil, olive oil and natural animal fats (tallow, lard, etc.)
Posted by LouisianaWhipDancer
Member since Feb 2015
74 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:53 pm to
This is so dumb... Of course you wouldn't be as healthy. Most fast food is grade D meat. Dog food is grade E. You remind me of the scene in Billy Madison. "Because of this statement everyone in this board is more dumb." HAVE A SEAT.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17852 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:54 pm to
I rarely eat fast food but I do stop thru the drive thru and get a drink sometimes.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80905 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:55 pm to
No. I eat fast food once in a while but not often enough to make a difference.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39867 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:57 pm to
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But you can go high carb/protein low fat and get great results as well. It really matters where you get your carbs from. Carbs coming from rice, oats, veggies, fruits will fill you up. People do IIFYM and want to eat ANYTHING, and while you may lose weight, you won't necessarily be any healthier.


Well, when keto people talk about "carbs" what they really mean is "net carbs" - which essentially excludes all fibrous carbs.

I would say that rice, oats and most fruits are "bad carbs" and should be extremely limited - if not eliminated. I also believe the science pretty clearly supports me on this.

When you say you can get "great results as well", which results are you referring to? If weight loss, then sure. But health? No. Eating non-fibrous carbs by definition causes insulin spikes, which over time can lead to insulin resistance - which is being increasingly identified as the most relevant marker for a whole host of major health problems (CVD, cancer, Alzheimers, diabetes, etc.)
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