re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)

Wow

I think the video/audio of the traffic stops gives some insight into the kind of people you're dealing with.

The dad immediately engaged in the distraction/sympathy routine, implying that the primary thing on the dad's mind was getting out of Pullman (WSU) because of how scary/horrific the shooting in Pullman (WSU) had been. He didn't say, "I'm just a dad riding cross country with my son to help him get home for the holidays". (Which is what this pre-planned road trip is alleged to have been).

So, dad's reaction to stress is to make up a distraction/sympathy story in order to try to befriend/distract the cop.

Brian's reaction to stress is to make up a lie. Going for Thai food? Really, in the middle of the interstate, with a car that has Washington plates in Indiana? That is a bizarre lie. And again, why would you not just tell the cop that you're a college student, traveling with your dad, to make your way home for the holidays?

Both Brian and his dad reacted to the stress of the stop by engaging in distraction and/or lying, when, in fact, the truth was a much more plausible and compelling response.

(I won't get into the possible pre-textual nature of the 2 traffic stops, as news reports seem inconsistent on whether these stops were provoked by an FBI request or if they were based on legit traffic enforcement, but it does seem too coincidental to be legit.)

How might this be important? Law enforcement now has two separate recorded statements from both Brian and his dad showing that their immediate impulse when confronted by law enforcement, even for an incident as minor as this, is to lie and/or distract.

It might not seem important now, but it seemingly innocuous interactions with law enforcement like this, can really come back to bite the defendant (or his dad) in the arse.

(As background, I prosecuted homicides and was a coroner early in my career, and later on, I defended a serial killer).

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Well damn. Do you know if that’s from a legit source?

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FWIW, my sauce told me that their sauce is related to one of the LEOs that first examined the crime scene. My sauce also said that none of this is confirmed...yet. But, they believe their sauce to be legit.

And given the details in the description, I believe this is pretty accurate.

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The brutality of that description really has me hoping it’s not true, but the sheath being found as the main piece of evidence seems plausible and is certainly interesting.

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The reason I believe it is because the type of weapon used was known from day 1. Kaybar or combat style knife. If the sheath was found, the police wouldn't have to wait for the coroner's report to confirm this.

Also, "54 stab wounds", that number seems too random to be made up, imo.

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How awful for the surviving roommate. Can’t imagine thinking the noises you’re hearing are just people carrying on, but it was actually your roommates being murdered. So sad.

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Honestly, this part is both sad and horrifying. If true, of course.


Also, the local media interviewed someone who Bryan interacted with regularly. They would go for runs together. In fact, this guy called Bryan to go for nighttime runs a few times after the murders because he didn't want to run alone with a killer at large.

Imagine being scared to run alone for fear of encountering the murderer, and the alleged murderer has been running next to you the whole time. :chills:

This thread has blown up over the last few days and I've been too busy with work to keep up..

What has come out since he's been arrested?

Seeing he drove the car back from Idaho with his dad?

Cliff Notes? 4-5 bullet points?

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This thread has blown up over the last few days and I've been too busy with work to keep up..

What has come out since he's been arrested?

Seeing he drove the car back from Idaho with his dad?

Cliff Notes? 4-5 bullet points?

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Suspect is a post grad criminal justice major at WSU.

Creepy loner, highly intelligent (supposedly), arrested in PA at parents house, and extradited to Idaho to face charges.

Stopped twice during road trip, allegedly at the request of FBI to get a look at suspects hands.

Vegan- which makes him guilty, imo.

And if you want to the most plausible explanation as to how they zeroed in on Bryan Kohberger, look at my ***POSSIBLE UPDATE ALERT*** post a couple pages back.

Thanks Shaft... long time no talk

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The bruises could be from beating the victim with gloved hands.

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I would guess that he used something to beat her with. If your other post was true, the damage was substantial. The information dump today should be substantial. The gag order hamstrings clarifying or expounding on questions that will surely arise today.

It just occurred to me this guy was vegan, yet chose a knife to seemingly horribly murder 4 people? Vegans are some seriously fricked up people with the hoops and BS they make up in their mind.

If the story of him not even being able to use the same pan as meat was cooked in is true but yet he can do this? Most of them vegans I know could never imagine having to butcher or cut meat.

Fwiw the guy that was the running partner was from Pennsylvania. He wasn’t running with Bryan in Idaho, that was all well in the past.

I assume now that he is arrested they have a warrant for his place and are collecting evidence there as well, right?

Haven't seen anything reported on that, but you'd have to think they are going through his stuff and especially his computer and phone.