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re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:11 pm to dallastigers
Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:11 pm to dallastigers
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Kaylee’s mom and sister mentioned she had just returned couple of days before being murdered wanted to show Madison her car.
Actually, i misread that & mixed the names up.
Kaylee’s sister name is Madison Goncalves & the roommate/best friend is also named Madison Mogen.
I read that article that she went “home” to show off the car to her sister, but after I watched the video interview with her mom, she meant she went “home” to Moscow to show Maddie Mogen the new car.
I think she went back to Moscow on Friday 11/11, went out on 11/12, and was killed later that night.
The mother said she had been home (I’d assume in Rathdrum, ID) with family for a week and a half before she went back to Moscow on Friday.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 12:33 pm
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:26 pm to BigOrangeKen
They will. It will be a disgruntled die hard trump supporter with a written manifesto
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:17 pm to lsufb1912
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Detectives are aware of a Latah County Sheriff’s Office incident of the report of a skinned dog but do not believe there is any evidence to support it is related to this incident. Contact Latah County Sheriff’s Office for further details.
I still don't understand what evidence they could possibly have to believe this wasn't the same person without knowing who committed either act. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't the same person.
So you have 1 person on the loose brutally killing pets and another brutally killing people in a similar manner with a similar weapon? I wouldn't bet on that.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:27 pm to tigerinthebayou
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I still don't understand what evidence they could possibly have to believe this wasn't the same person without knowing who committed either act. I'd be very surprised if it wasn't the same person.
So you have 1 person on the loose brutally killing pets and another brutally killing people in a similar manner with a similar weapon? I wouldn't bet on that.
same crew that didn't secure the vehicles or dumpsters nearby for weeks. I don't think you've got the best/brightest on this. Even if you didn't have 4 dead youths, I'd be interested and alarmed that someone did this- for whatever reason.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:36 pm to dallastigers
So they towed the Slain Students' Cars as well as a car (cars?) from the two survivors.
So they can generate a list of people who rode with them before the butchery?
It's right strange to my uneducated in the ways of police mind
So they can generate a list of people who rode with them before the butchery?
It's right strange to my uneducated in the ways of police mind
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:38 pm to real turf fan
Yes.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:54 pm to real turf fan
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So they can generate a list of people who rode with them before the butchery?
I believe they are still gathering fingerprints/DNA inside the apartment. I guess they will do the same in the cars & try to find out if the killer had been in the vehicle with them at any point.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:57 pm to tigerinthebueche
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Even if you didn't have 4 dead youths, I'd be interested and alarmed that someone did this- for whatever reason.
Exactly. If the dog was shot then you could maybe assume he felt threatened by it or was attacked or something. But to slit its throat with a knife and then skin it is extremely disturbing on its own without the 4 dead students.
Almost seems like it was test kill so to speak before escalating to the students.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:10 pm to tigerinthebayou
They would have to be idiots to completely dismiss those 2 events as being related
Now there may be details that have not been revealed that exclude the possibility
Like the 80 yo dog owner had outstanding bookie debts or has been sleeping with the neighbor's wife
Now there may be details that have not been revealed that exclude the possibility
Like the 80 yo dog owner had outstanding bookie debts or has been sleeping with the neighbor's wife
Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:16 pm to tigerinthebayou
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Almost seems like it was test kill so to speak before escalating to the students.
Interesting, but that's a heck of a leap. But I'm not of that mindset so,
.This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:20 pm to tigerinthebayou
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But to slit its throat with a knife and then skin it is extremely disturbing on its own without the 4 dead students.
I haven't been keeping up lately, but last I heard the Cops believed the dead dog was killed by another animal. Is this not the case?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:27 pm to AUstar
Well, if there's an animal that leaves the head and legs with fur and skins the rest without eating the meat, please identify it for the less educated here.
And I thought this happened a couple doors down initially, but it turned out to be a few miles across town.
Still highly unusual and would be worth an investigation
And I thought this happened a couple doors down initially, but it turned out to be a few miles across town.
Still highly unusual and would be worth an investigation
Posted on 11/30/22 at 3:35 pm to wahoocs
One of the guys in the food truck video put out a couple videos with what he saw there and correcting info from an article about him. Found it interesting. YouTube video linked below is from a channel that just put all his Tik Tok videos together to be watched on YT. Seems like a good guy.
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 4:00 pm to AUstar
You’re confusing 2 separate incidents. They are both mentioned in the post on previous page about rumor control
There was a skinned dog that is still being investigated by Latah County Sheriff’s Office.
There was an incident with deceased animals being left on a resident’s property. That was determined to be wildlife activity.
There was a skinned dog that is still being investigated by Latah County Sheriff’s Office.
There was an incident with deceased animals being left on a resident’s property. That was determined to be wildlife activity.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:14 pm to dallastigers
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I think they at least meant she wasn’t originally planning on being there when she was murdered, but after getting car and talking to Madison she wanted to show her the car and drove back. Whether that meant she just returned early or that she hadn’t been living there full time recently and just went back school to show car I don’t know.
I have a theory that the answer to two of the three questions will play a major part in helping investigators find the killer.
Why that night? Why that house? Why that time of night?
Most of the information out in the public space is around Kaylee Goncalves so it leads speculation she was the target. In answering the questions, she was in town for that weekend, staying at the house more sporadically, and finishing school and be gone soon. That could lead to a suspicion that night was going to be one of the last opportunities for someone with a rift against her to take action. However, comments from her mom does not support the idea she was the target.
From the different articles I have read on this, there seems to be something very specific in the house that clearly points to one victim as the target. This is what was said almost immediately from the police and their most recent statements seems as though they are not wavering on that at all. My guess is that one victim had signs of more brutality or maybe the killer left some type of msg towards one of them.
I would not rule out anyone at this point including the boyfriend. A good alibi would not be good enough to clear someone, a deep dive into their actions and communications back a month or so would need to be checked out and no way there was time for that to happen when they announce people were cleared.
I still have suspicion the target could have been Xana. Early comments from her family were that she was the "defender" of the family and not shy about putting up a fight. To me those type descriptions sound like someone that might tend to have a bit of a "mouth" at times that could piss someone off. Also, her father made a comment about her wounds that I have not seen disclosed of other victims.
Their timeframe has not been disclosed between around 9:30 - 1:45. Where did they go? Is it possible they were somewhere and had a confrontation with some stranger nut who unknowingly to them was offended to the point they became a target? The person followed them home and waited. This answers the why that night and why that house. Could also be why the police want any and all video they can get. Maybe they are on video at a convenience store, gas station, etc.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:54 pm to fwtex
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Their timeframe has not been disclosed between around 9:30 - 1:45. Where did they go? Is it possible they were somewhere and had a confrontation with some stranger nut who unknowingly to them was offended to the point they became a target? The person followed them home and waited. This answers the why that night and why that house.
I agree with most of this, but we know that Xana/Ethan were at a party somewhere & Kaylee/Maddie were somewhere else at a different bar. However all 4 arrived back at the house around the same time.
The other 2 roommates were out too but arrived back at the house about an hr earlier before everyone else and were probably already asleep when everyone else got back.
It’s possible Kaylee/Maddie ran into the suspect & interacted with them that night, but Xana wasn’t there with them.
I think killer followed Kaylee/Maddie home & saw Xana/Ethan in the house too. That’s why those 4 were killed & not the other 2 roommates.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:56 pm to fwtex
Do we know for sure that it was the girls that called the ex-boyfriend, and not the killer himself?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:04 pm to L.A.
This story may have passed Gabby Petito in terms of the amount of useless clickbait articles with absolutely nothing of substance.
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:19 pm to Chicken
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Do we know for sure that it was the girls that called the ex-boyfriend, and not the killer himself?
All I know is that I wouldn’t want to have been a neighbor doing a late-night dog walk and looking through the window and seeing that horror show in progress.
Seems like the murders on the third floor were in plain sight of anyone looking from the back of the house, which includes the neighboring apartment complex’s parking lot and one or two houses behind them.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:29 pm to LSUGrrrl
That dude is cringe. That tik tok was too much “look at me” while trying to say I don’t want any attention.
Side note: not sure how much it has been discussed or not but, the guy that walks up to the grub bus at the same time that they did is interesting. The Twitch stream shows him creep back and starts watching them and then turns his hat around and puts his hood on. Shadow walks them when they leave.
Side note: not sure how much it has been discussed or not but, the guy that walks up to the grub bus at the same time that they did is interesting. The Twitch stream shows him creep back and starts watching them and then turns his hat around and puts his hood on. Shadow walks them when they leave.
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