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Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:14 am to
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
6821 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:14 am to
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This story may have passed Gabby Petito in terms of the amount of useless clickbait articles with absolutely nothing of substance.




The link to the youtube video of the footage that the couple in the RV had accidentally filmed of their van was posted here when it only had a couple hundred views(it ended up with over a million views in the first 24 hrs).

I remember because I was the one that posted the link to it(just got lucky when I ran across it). Had no idea at the time that their video footage was even of the actual van, much less that their video would be the key to finding her. But there's no doubt now that it was.
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 1:16 am
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
28692 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:19 am to
quote:

argeted attack with an edged weapon


The notorious AR-14
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
13132 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:24 am to
Cops now say not targeted.
LOL
Remember, cops fail to make arrest in 40 percent of murders nationwide.
Posted by skeeter531
Member since Jun 2014
2492 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:28 am to
And yet just this morning I read that the father of one of the girls claimed the two best girlfriends were found dead in the same bed!! hmmmm things keep changing!
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61179 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:30 am to
How do you “not target” 4 different people in possibly four different places using a method that takes some slow and up close and personal messy involvement over and over.

A victim of opportunity is usually disposed of in a situation that presents itself in that moment

Going out of the way, climbing and breaking in to a second floor (if what they say is true, which seems absurd), taking the time to stalk through the house taking people out with a blade, THEN finding a quiet and clean exit…doesn’t strike me as “not targeted”

Are these cops really thinking we are that dumb? Or are they that dumb?
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 6:32 am
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:48 am to
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Tuesday evening, Thompson told NewsNation’s Brian Entin that it was not necessarily one person who was targeted, but more so the home itself.

Moscow police said conflicting information has been released by the prosecutor in the past 24 hours.

“The Latah County Prosecutor’s Office stated the suspect(s) specifically looked at this residence, and that one or more of the occupants were undoubtedly targeted,” Moscow police said. “We have spoken with the Latah County Prosecutor’s Office and identified this was a miscommunication. Detectives do not currently know if the residence or any occupants were specifically targeted but continue to investigate.”

Moscow police’s statement comes on the heels of community members gathering at the University of Idaho to remember the four students who were stabbed to death in an off-campus rental home Nov. 13.

A county coroner preliminarily determined that the students identified as Ethan Chapin, 20; Madison Mogen, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20; and Kaylee Goncalves, 21, all died from stab wounds and were likely asleep at the time of their murders.

Prosecutor: No evidence Idaho killings were drug-related

At the vigil, Kaylee’s father revealed that Kaylee and her best friend, Madison, were both killed together in the same bedroom in the same bed.


Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36788 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:50 am to
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Going out of the way, climbing and breaking in to a second floor (if what they say is true, which seems absurd), taking the time to stalk through the house taking people out with a blade, THEN finding a quiet and clean exit…doesn’t strike me as “not targeted”



Wat???

You really should take a look at the way the house is laid out.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 6:57 am to
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At the vigil, Kaylee’s father revealed that Kaylee and her best friend, Madison, were both killed together in the same bedroom in the same bed.


Well damn.. what do you know, I just said the opposite a couple pages back. This is the first time that information has been released though. Up to this point, The investigators had only said 2 victims on the 2nd floor & 2 on the third and they were all found in their bed.
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Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:03 am to
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Do we know for sure that it was the girls that called the ex-boyfriend, and not the killer himself?


Technically, no. Investigators have said the calls were made between 2-3am & the murders happened between 3-4am. Not sure how accurate those timelines are, but I think the girls might’ve left voicemails when he didn’t answer.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52580 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 7:09 am to
I've got a terrible feeling they may never find the killer
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:12 am to
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Well damn.. what do you know, I just said the opposite a couple pages back




Edit: Also, back to my original question…why would they have been in the same bed?
This post was edited on 12/1/22 at 8:13 am
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
6090 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:22 am to
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why would they have been in the same bed?


College age girls sleep in the same bed all the time after going out. I've known multiple girls who, while having their own bed in the same apartment, would end up passing out in a bed together. Nothing sexual, just drunk, laying down bullshitting then just pass out. Happens more than you'd think.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:28 am to
Ok Kaylee and Madison were found in same bed.

Xana had defensive wounds.

It leads me to believe killer initially kills K and M on top floor. Either snuck up there first or was hiding in their closet when they arrived.

Went downstairs to leave. Probably heard Dylan coming out to inspect or moving around the room making noise after hearing a commotion upstairs.

Entered room. Killed boyfriend first to eliminate the male threat. Xana freaks out and he kills her last and she knows she has to fight back because she just saw her bf get knifed to death.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:28 am to
It’s not like I lied about it & it’s new information. Before yesterday, there were no reports of them being found in the same room. The only info was there were 2 victims on the 3rd floor (where there are 2 bedrooms) & they were found in their bed.

I don’t think it’s relevant info. The father probably shouldn’t have shared that either bc people will start assuming they had some lesbian thing going on.

I don’t think that’s the case at all
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36818 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:29 am to
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Edit: Also, back to my original question…why would they have been in the same bed?


have you ever known 2 girls that were friends in your entire life
Posted by jose
Member since Feb 2009
29758 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:29 am to
I'm trying to read through this thread but I'm getting lost in the weeds.

Is there a good cliff notes post somewhere or can anyone help me out?
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:30 am to
Bro girls sleep in the same bed ALL the time

Especially college age girls. “Let’s have a sleep over. Let’s cuddle. Let’s have a slumber party. Let’s play.”

College aged girls love to behave like this
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:30 am to
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Nothing sexual


That wasn’t the implication I was going for.

Still got a feeling that Kaylee and/or Maddie were uneasy about something, related to the telephone calls, and stayed close to each other through the night to give one another company/protection against what they were uneasy about.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:31 am to
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It’s not like I lied about it & it’s new information


I’m being silly for a laugh. You’ve got nothing to apologize for.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46419 posts
Posted on 12/1/22 at 8:36 am to
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Going out of the way, climbing and breaking in to a second floor (if what they say is true, which seems absurd),


You need to look at the house layout. The 2nd floor had a ground level sliding door entrance.
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