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re: Idaho Murders Thread (Links inside)
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:54 pm to MrWalkingMan
Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:54 pm to MrWalkingMan
They may have, but I suspect we would have heard about it by now if they did. Although it's important to keep tight lipped about important information, the Moscow PD also has an interest in quelling the public's fear of a deranged serial killer, and a public statement that this is believed to be drug related would do just that.
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 1:56 pm to UpToPar
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His cell phone pings put him in the area at least 12 separate occasions before this.
Thanks for posting this.
So he either was in the house at some point or he was doing his diligence.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:00 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
Like Vince Marinello and his "To Do List". He shot his wife in the face as she was leaving a doctor's appointment and immediately hauled arse to Mississippi as his "alibi". Unfortunately for Vince, his To Do List didn't include "Destroy List" as the last item.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:03 pm to jchamil
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Ok, college students buying any drug from a house full of college girls aren't usually bringing weapons to buy their coke/Adderall/etc.
IF this was drug related, I think it's more likely that BK was the dealer, not the girls.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:07 pm to BK Lounge
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BK Lounge
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:15 pm to VolunGator
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I'll not be surprised if we learn that drugs were being sold from the girl's house. I'll not be surprised to learn that the crime occurred due to a drug deal gone horribly wrong. This would explain all the stupid mistakes. One will ask, what about the knife? BK (or anyone) purchasing drugs regularly would carry a weapon.
Washington has some of the most progressive drugs laws in the country while Idaho has some of the strictest. It would make no sense to conduct drug deals on that side of the state line.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:25 pm to Motownsix
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Washington has some of the most progressive drugs laws in the country while Idaho has some of the strictest. It would make no sense to conduct drug deals on that side of the state line.
This might be the most ignorant comment I've seen in this thread.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:34 pm to wutangfinancial
Oddly enough, I think we all somewhat want this terrible incident to be drug related. If it is, it provides an unfortunate explanation. However, I think for many of us, that unfortunate explanation is something that we can maybe understand and wrap our head around.
The alternative, the repeated stalking or, the hunting as Mr. Gonclaves said, by a random psychotic loser with no connection whatsoever to the victims is a lot harder for us to accept. It is much more sad, uncomfortable and unnecessary.
The alternative, the repeated stalking or, the hunting as Mr. Gonclaves said, by a random psychotic loser with no connection whatsoever to the victims is a lot harder for us to accept. It is much more sad, uncomfortable and unnecessary.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 2:40 pm to GentleJackJones
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Oddly enough, I think we all somewhat want this terrible incident to be drug related. If it is, it provides an unfortunate explanation. However, I think for many of us, that unfortunate explanation is something that we can maybe understand and wrap our head around. The alternative, the repeated stalking or, the hunting as Mr. Gonclaves said, by a random psychotic loser with no connection whatsoever to the victims is a lot harder for us to accept. It is much more sad, uncomfortable and unnecessary.
I said the same this weekend when that long, dumbass post was entered into the thread.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:07 pm to Ostrich
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IF this was drug related, I think it's more likely that BK was the dealer, not the girls.
One of the reasons the drugs or the stalker angle makes sense is because how LEO described the attacks as “targeted”.
IF this was drug related, maybe Ethan was the target and not the girls. It would be easier to target him at his girlfriend’s apartment instead of the fraternity house. It’s not uncommon for fraternities to get involved with selling drugs. Just a consideration with the drug angle
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:21 pm to Bourre
Why is everyone making this overly complicated? It's not.
I highly doubt it was drug related.
Just another example of a pathetic incel lashing out. This time instead of shooting up a theater or concert, he targeted some girls who he lusted and after and probably got dissed by.
Dude's a loser just like all the other incel pussies.
I highly doubt it was drug related.
Just another example of a pathetic incel lashing out. This time instead of shooting up a theater or concert, he targeted some girls who he lusted and after and probably got dissed by.
Dude's a loser just like all the other incel pussies.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:22 pm to wutangfinancial
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Washington has some of the most progressive drugs laws in the country while Idaho has some of the strictest.
How about pointing out the part of the comment that isn't a fact?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:23 pm to Ostrich
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IF this was drug related, I think it's more likely that BK was the dealer, not the girls
Or the dealer is BK himself or a male friend of one or more of the girls. Might explain why DM didn't call the police. The crime scene is very close to Sigma Chi. A high percentage of college guys are doing blow, molly, etc. My son is a frat boy and he tells me all that half the frats are known as high drug activity groups.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:29 pm to ghost2most
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Why is everyone making this overly complicated? It's not.
I think it was Chris Rock with a bit years ago where he said "What ever happened to crazy?"
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:31 pm to Bourre
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One of the reasons the drugs or the stalker angle makes sense is because how LEO described the attacks as “targeted”.
I think in this case “targeted” means that he was obsessing with at least one of the girls and was stalking them on social media and in person. It wasn’t a random house he was driving by and decided to go in and knife people.
I hope by some miracle they were able to get access to his phone and computer and check out his search and view history for social media before it was scrubbed.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 3:39 pm to VolunGator
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Or the dealer is BK himself or a male friend of one or more of the girls. Might explain why DM didn't call the police.
Why do y'all keep saying this? If Dylan recognized him, he would have been I'D immediately.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 4:26 pm to ghost2most
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I highly doubt it was drug related.
Yep, I don't see it.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:06 pm to Saintsisit
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Why do y'all keep saying this? If Dylan recognized him, he would have been I'D immediately.
It doesn't mean that DM would recognize BK. If drug deals were common (or not uncommon) DM would know not to notify the police of a stranger. Even a stranger that startled her. DM might have thought the figure she saw was someone leaving after having bought drugs or just another dude leaving after a one night stand.
There were five colleges girls living in this house. It's not uncommon for girls today to play the field with numerous guys if not at the same time.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:08 pm to VolunGator
The only way I see drugs being involved is if she didn't want to call the cops that night cause drugs were in the house.
The relation between the girls and BK had nothing to drugs.
The relation between the girls and BK had nothing to drugs.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 5:25 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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I think the biggest takeaway is that the more you plan a crime, the more evidence you create against yourself. If he had just gotten in his car and randomly committed the murders I think there’s a great possibility he’d still be at large. DNA and cell phone pings aside, does anyone doubt that his electronic devices are filled with evidence of him planning the crime? He was a phd student, taking notes and analyzing his “research” data are part of himself that he’d be unable to turn off.
We're clearly not dealing with a criminal mastermind here.
The killers who seem to "get away" for long periods of time (in the digital age anyway) are ones that have a plan but choose their targets at random.
Israel Keyes may be the most meticulous and terrifying serial killer in US history, even though he's only credited with 3 murders (Because that's all he would confess to, the real number could be staggering. He had rules for his kills, one of them was ALWAYS remove sim cards from the phones of his victims, and never carry a phone near the scene of an abduction or burglary.
His other rule was never kill or leave a body close to home. He only got caught because he broke this rule, and because of pure dumb luck that his rental car was caught on a security camera, and when he went to get a new rental, the only replacement they had left was the exact same make, model and color.
Keyes was also an Army Ranger who had, allegedly, an IQ on par with Ted Kaczynski.
And he got caught...Kohberger is a mental midget in comparison.
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