re: ICE issue in West Monroe

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I think mass, indiscriminate detentions and deportations are a bad idea. I know I am in the minority here with that take.

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because you are a pussy and pussies tend to make emotional decisions based off feelings of the moment...pussies and females, which one are you?

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People want mass detentions and deportations, and with that comes disruptions to everyday life for everyone. Time will tell if all of the promised benefits are true or not.

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time will tell if having less people here illegally sucking off the taxpayer tit, over crowding schools, causing housing issue will be a benefit?

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However, it makes me wonder if ICE has too much leeway.

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What we also know is that he presented his government-issued identification but did not have his Social Security card with him at the time. Within hours, that documentation was produced, along with paperwork showing he had been granted asylum and was lawfully in the immigration process. Yet days later he’s still being detained.”

I’m kind of surprised we don’t have a way to quickly resolve issues with the detainment process.

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When the clueless finally get a clue.

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Should we just accept the fact that millions upon millions of non-citizens are roaming our streets and communities disrupting our normal way of life?

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How is your life disrupted now more than it was disrupted before January 6, 2021?

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How do you propose we address the mass immigration issue if deportations are a bad idea?

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1) Lock down the border to stop the influx into the country;
2) Target people with criminal records; and
3) Revise employment visas to better suit the economic needs of modern America, meaning limit H-1B while expanding H-2B and H-2A.

The modern approach at the Monroe Doctrine is also going to fix a lot of the issues as well, but that is a generational fix if it can be stuck with.

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How is your life disrupted now more than it was disrupted before January 6, 2021?

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That's a terrible argument and not logical at all. By that logic, if I haven't been hit by a speeding car, I can't really say that Georgia football has a problem with reckless driving. No one has stolen my identity, I suppose identity theft isn't a problem to be addressed.

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1) Lock down the border to stop the influx into the country;
2) Target people with criminal records; and
3) Revise employment visas to better suit the economic needs of modern America, meaning limit H-1B while expanding H-2B and H-2A.

The modern approach at the Monroe Doctrine is also going to fix a lot of the issues as well, but that is a generational fix if it can be stuck with.

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1) The border already is much more secure than it was

2) Again, vague. How are you gonna do it? Sounds great on paper, "we'll just target the bad people." How you gonna make that happen?

3) More vague platitudes. What does that mean? How are you going to do that? What do you mean by better?

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A little disruption for long term improvement is very acceptable, imo.

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It's such a childish and entitled argument that they made. I want things to be great but I don't want it to impact or alter a single apsect of my life to get there. I want to be fit but working out is disruptive. I want to make more money but a 2nd job would encroach on my lifestyle. It's entitlement to it's core.

Why did he qualify for asylum?

What country is he from?

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Over 80% of all jobs since 2020 have gone to foreign-born workers

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Trump is on pace to have the most H-1B approvals of any president, more than Obama and Biden. Mass round ups of illegals doesn't change that. That is a vastly bigger issue to address.

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A record was just set of 105 million Americans not in the labor force (NILF)

We have reached a record of Americans classified as long-term unemployed despite seeking work

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Again that is a real issue, but to simply say "mass deportations will fix this" is foolish. There are more issues at play than simply "they took our jobs." Trump's push since 2015 to nearshore jobs and bringing manufacturing back is a good example of a tangible step that should lower that number. Another thing is the work requirements in the OBBB last summer to receive some benefits.

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But yea, man, your feelings trump all of that data.

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Scapegoating all of the countries problems on a group of people is as feelings based an argument as you can get.

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Trump is on pace to have the most H-1B approvals of any president, more than Obama and Biden. Mass round ups of illegals doesn't change that. That is a vastly bigger issue to address.

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Trump tried to slow down H1B with a $100K fee, but a liberal judge stopped it.

Congress has the exclusive authority to completely eliminate or permanently halt the H-1B visa program. Not the POTUS

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but to simply say "mass deportations will fix this" is foolish

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How is it going to hurt the issue, though? Let me guess, you buy into the 'they are only doing jobs Americans don't want to do' narrative

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Scapegoating all of the countries problems on a group of people is as feelings based an argument as you can get.

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Did you know that so far FL and TX have each saved nearly a billion per year thanks to fewer ESL students in schools? A billion each that can be used on American students or a billion less in property taxes that each state needs to operate. You can look at it either way especially since FL is trying to eliminate property taxes.

The point is, that a ton of our problems and waste of tax money and resources are directly due to that 'group of people' and only an idiot would act like that's not the case.

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1) The border already is much more secure than it was

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Exactly, that's a great thing.

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2) Again, vague. How are you gonna do it? Sounds great on paper, "we'll just target the bad people." How you gonna make that happen?

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ICE has already expanded the 287(g) agreements they have around the country, including more and more with jails. Homan likes that approach, and pushes for it. Withholding federal funds from sanctuary cities is another tool they can, and are actively, using. It's not "vague" it's actively happening. The Homan approach is vastly superior to the Bovino approach but it doesn't make for as many viral clips.

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3) More vague platitudes. What does that mean? How are you going to do that? What do you mean by better?

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Not vague at all. The H-1B visa system is the most abused visa we have. You know what America doesn't have? A shortage of qualified, educated, and capable young people to work in tech. There is no labor shortage to be supplemented by fraudulent foreign workers. You know what America does have a shortage of? Workers willing to work in the heat doing manual labor. The solution is to force Americans off of government assistance and put them to work. But until that pipedream happens, eliminating the seasonality and cap to the H-2B and expanding qualifying jobs for H-2A would go a long way in stopping working age men coming to the US illegally to work because they have a valid, although temporary, path to do it.

The State Department quietly added a requirement that for non-immigrant visa interviews the applicant is asked asylum screening questions. If they answer affirmatively to the questions they are denied visas, if they answer negatively but then apply for asylum it destroys credibility. That right there is a way more tangible step to correcting issues than indiscriminate traffic stops.