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re: I think people need to accept that the housing window has closed

Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:38 pm to
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There MAY be like 2 or 3 out of the couple of hundred you posted. There are almost 9 million people in DFW


Why are you so obsessed with DFW area? Tons of places to live in Texas if you want to raise a family in a typical american dream suburban home that are not in DFW and much more affordable.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11885 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:39 pm to
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1. Nobody builds smaller starter homes anymore. I’m sure that many people here grew up in a home smaller than 1,200 square feet. Nobody has build those homes for 30 years unless you include beach homes.


This isn't true
Posted by OU812ME2
Earth
Member since Jun 2021
1379 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:43 pm to
The REAL problem is the ghetto has expanded WELL beyond anything seen before. Especially in metros where the police aren't allowed to actually police. So when 2/3 of the area is considered a crime area, then that 1/3 is going to be super expensive. The need to subsidize the criminal elements has created a problem for anyone not wanting to live in a crime infested area.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15598 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:45 pm to
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Why are you so obsessed with DFW area? Tons of places to live in Texas if you want to raise a family in a typical american dream suburban home that are not in DFW and much more affordable.


I would assume its because job availability.

Economy isnt great and hasnt been for a quick minute

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79513 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:48 pm to
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: the American dream personified


And there it is. Thinking you should get the dream on say one instead of working up to it.

That is the mentality that makes people think they are above starter homes or living below their means to save up for their dream.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87692 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:52 pm to
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That is the mentality that makes people think they are above starter homes or living below their means to save up for their dream.



Look, I think there is a lot of entitlement at play.

But where are the starter homes in safe areas within an hour of Atlanta? Or Miami, or Dallas, etc.? And for many people, they can't go ply their trade in a rural area or small town.

Nobody is taking tracts of real estate in decent-yet-unexciting areas in big metros and going "let's build 2000 sf garden homes here and sell them for 200-400k". Why would they? When anywhere with those qualities can command twice that much?
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41711 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:52 pm to
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living below their means to save up for their dream.


Realistically, how much do you think the average person/household doing this should be able to save per year?
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:52 pm to
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They’ll just have to find $50k somewhere in order to do it


Oh no saving for a down payment on a house. That must be a new concept because no one else had to do that. Just you.
Posted by CPA Yung Boi
Member since Apr 2026
217 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:53 pm to
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And there it is. Thinking you should get the dream on say one instead of working up to it.

That is the mentality that makes people think they are above starter homes or living below their means to save up for their dream


People are 40 fricking years old before they buy their first home on average dude
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24391 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:54 pm to
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But where are the starter homes in safe areas within an hour of Atlanta? Or Miami, or Dallas, etc.?


What about New York City or Los Angeles or San Fran!

My American dream is owning a 4000sq ft starter home with a 1/2 of grass in San Fran or NYC for $400k, damnit!
Posted by CPA Yung Boi
Member since Apr 2026
217 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:56 pm to
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What about New York City or Los Angeles or San Fran!

My American dream is owning a 4000sq ft starter home with a 1/2 of grass in San Fran or NYC for $400k, damnit!


Baton Rouge and Jackson Mississippi are shite holes with no industry and DR Horton homes 45 minutes from the little they do have are like $325k.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79513 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 2:58 pm to
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People are 40 fricking years old before they buy their first home on average dude


They also carry a shite ton of debt, suck with money, and are uneducated.

Not affording a house is an effect of people being bad at life. You can only help people that help themselves.

People, even young people, do it every day. Ive never met a responsible person that bitches about not being able to afford a house. Always someone who brings a shitload of problems on themselves with bad choices.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79513 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Realistically, how much do you think the average person/household doing this should be able to save per year


10% of your income should be easy.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
41711 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:00 pm to
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Oh no saving for a down payment on a house. That must be a new concept because no one else had to do that. Just you.


You really struggle with basic concepts, don't you?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87692 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:00 pm to
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What about New York City or Los Angeles or San Fran!

My American dream is owning a 4000sq ft starter home with a 1/2 of grass in San Fran or NYC for $400k, damnit!


I mean, this is dumb.

They don't need endless amounts of CPAs and corporate attorneys or PTs or respiratory therapists in Longview Texas.

You can't just go do anything anywhere. And you're asking people who were raised out of communities where that was still a thing to live that life. I grew up in a town where a lot of people didn't go to college, it was nearly all white, church was the dominant social scene, the schools sent kids to really good colleges AND it was within an hour of a metro. My dad worked in Buckhead his whole life.

So it's not like I came from the woods and decided to be an investment banker and I'm mad I can't be one one in rural Georgia.

Circumstances have changed pretty drastically, options are narrower, and it's silly to act like that's not the case just because you want to shite on people who eat avocado toast or whatever. You can recognize the reality and still shite on said people.
Posted by CPA Yung Boi
Member since Apr 2026
217 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:01 pm to
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They also carry a shite ton of debt, suck with money, and are uneducated.


They didn’t have to carry a shite ton of debt and could be uneducated a buy a home at 25 40 years ago, which is the point.

Y’all seem to think people think individuals are blameless here. They aren’t. But you can do everything “right” and not be able to buy a decent house until 15 years later than your parents did. That fricking blows. It is what it is, I just don’t see the point in denying that’s the reality.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24391 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:01 pm to
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People are 40 fricking years old before they buy their first home on average dude


Again though this is the avg or median. I'd bet if you took the Avg age of the top 30% of income earners it would be much much lower. I bought 2 homes before I was 35, one in my 20s. Almost every single friend of mine that graduated college and started a decent career, bought before they were 35.

The ones that didn't, either suck at life or were bad with money/ decisions.

My point is that I think your metric sucks. Its fairly pointless.

ETA: I'm in my low 40s now, everyone I can think of that hasn't bought a home yet or hasn't owned for awhile sucks at life.
This post was edited on 7/31/26 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87692 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:02 pm to
Yes.

People are probably more vapid. Less resilient. Less willing to sacrifice.

All that can be true, and it doesn't change the reality that the landscape of it has changed under their feet at the same time.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:04 pm to
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They’ll just have to find $50k somewhere in order to do it


You can go ahead and believe that. I had three kids in daycare at same time while paying two house notes because I made a bad financial decision and managed to survive. Oh yeah my interest rate at the time was a historically low 6.0 on both houses.

Yes quit believing the rhetoric that is spewed daily to create division and recognize that we have all been there.
Posted by CPA Yung Boi
Member since Apr 2026
217 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 3:04 pm to
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I bought 2 homes before I was 35, one in my 20s.


You were also given a successful business.
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