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re: I said, "My name is Patrick!"(police bodycam)
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:45 pm to motorbreath
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:45 pm to motorbreath
quote:Which is what he did, answering his name twice then standing up.
I'm realistic. I don't expect perfection from anyone. But when a cop tells you to do something you do it.
It never dawned on the cops that Patrick isn't Michael, so maybe it's a good idea to further investigate...but nah, you're not worried at all about that.
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:47 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Lulz, charges were dropped, yet you're still arguing they were correct.
Lulz cop job is safe
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:48 pm to motorbreath
quote:So if all of this frick up was admittedly the cop's fault, why aren't you focusing on that at all?
He approached the wrong guy, no doubt. He mistakenly said he asked for his ID.
Really telling.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:50 pm to Kickadawgitfeelsgood
They weren't identical but did have similar features and Patrick was in the driveway of the house the guy was living in. But still zero excuse for not asking for ID when Patrick said his name. Then tasering him before looking at his ID
No doubt Patrick's rights were violated.
No doubt Patrick's rights were violated.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:50 pm to shel311
This thread is blowing my mind 
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:54 pm to shel311
If they were so certain that it was Michael, while approaching the vehicle, why didn't the cops immediately address him as Michael ("Michael? Come on, get up. Turn around and put your hands behind your back. You have an outstanding warrant for your arrest for ____.")?
Judging by their casual demeanor involving the initial encounter, this simple solution could have solved this entire dilemma. Patrick, obviously, would have replied with, "I'm not Michael. My name is Patrick ____." Cops would have asked for ID and both parties would have gone their own ways.
Judging by their casual demeanor involving the initial encounter, this simple solution could have solved this entire dilemma. Patrick, obviously, would have replied with, "I'm not Michael. My name is Patrick ____." Cops would have asked for ID and both parties would have gone their own ways.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:56 pm to shel311
If anything the police waited too long to taze him. He was somewhat compliant in words but not compliant at all in actions. The cops hadn't laid a hand on him or tazed him when he retreated into his car against the requests of the cop.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 8:58 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:How can people not admit how badly the cops botched this one?
This thread is blowing my mind
They're trained in these situations, it seemed really simple to get the right info and ID on this dude to end this one very easily. NO clue why folks are knighting for the cops here.
Yep, the dude coulda handled it better and avoided a charge, but frick, you can't blame him one bit for not trusting cops...just watch the video.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:00 pm to shel311
quote:
you can't blame him one bit for not trusting cops...just watch the video.
Wut? His first response to the cops is "why you asking?" Who else should I blame for that response to being asked this name? The cops didn't walk up screaming.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:09 pm to shel311
quote:
So if all of this frick up was admittedly the cop's fault, why aren't you focusing on that at all?
Really telling.
What's really telling is that I type one thing and your brain sees another thing.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:12 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:That's a 100% fair question to ask, fwiw.
Wut? His first response to the cops is "why you asking?
quote:What's to blame, there's nothing wrong with asking the cop's their intentions before you answer any questions.
Who else should I blame for that response to being asked this name? The cops didn't walk up screaming.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:13 pm to motorbreath
quote:so you're equally focusing on the fault of Patrick and the cops in this thread?
What's really telling is that I type one thing and your brain sees another thing.
Is that the story you want to go with?
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:14 pm to shel311
The real question is why are you knighting for the guy that escalated the situation.
If you don't think Patrick is the one most at fault for making this situation turn badly then you are hopeless(and blind).
If you don't think Patrick is the one most at fault for making this situation turn badly then you are hopeless(and blind).
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:18 pm to Salmon
I'm gonna give some of these morons the benefit of the doubt and say y'all may be arguing 2 different things. I can see the point of the "he just shoulda" folks IF you're just talking about the consequences that immediately followed. If you're saying he shoulda let them violate his rights, submitted to their every command & it woulda saved him what the cops did to him. Then fight ur battle in court
Now if you're arguing that the kid was wrong and he wasn't within his rights to stand up and be disobedient to what he KNEW was unlawful commands, then...well... You're just a fricking idiot...or worse a fricking bigot idiot.
And I shoulda prefaced this with the fact that this is the 1st time I can remember not being on the cops side in these videos. 99% of the time, there's some dumbass doing something wrong that escalated the situation. Just like ole Martyr Sterling
Now if you're arguing that the kid was wrong and he wasn't within his rights to stand up and be disobedient to what he KNEW was unlawful commands, then...well... You're just a fricking idiot...or worse a fricking bigot idiot.
And I shoulda prefaced this with the fact that this is the 1st time I can remember not being on the cops side in these videos. 99% of the time, there's some dumbass doing something wrong that escalated the situation. Just like ole Martyr Sterling
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:19 pm to motorbreath
quote:W
If you don't think Patrick is the one most at fault for making this situation turn badly then you are hopeless(and blind).
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You realize Patrick wasn't the one with the warrant. There is literally no way to argue that anyone other than the cops are most at fault considering they had the wrong guy.
Too funny.
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:22 pm to tigerfoot
quote:
Even if he was lying, even ifvhe was the guy they were looking for, no one needed a tazing. They had him outnumbered, there was zero to escalate just because you got pissed off.
What ever happened to communication
Exactly- things like tazing are supposed to be worst case scenario type of actions
A guy asking why he's being arrested should not cause that response ever. Even if that was Michael, it was inappropriate (and I'll stress again - from a trained professional that prepared himself to walk into the situation)
If that was enough to totally derail him to use of force, he shouldn't have this job.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:26 pm to VerlanderBEAST
I usually side with the cops, but frick these cops..bunch of pussies on a power trip..didn't read the thread, how the frick can the cops justify tasing a guy whom they wrongfully identified and who was well within his rights?
I'm a law abiding citizen but if the cop comes up to me like these assholes did I'd be resppnding the same way...
I'm a law abiding citizen but if the cop comes up to me like these assholes did I'd be resppnding the same way...
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/15/16 at 9:56 pm to tiggah1981
anyone have a link to follow-up on this story? Charges dropped? I hope. Officers reprimanded? I hope. Suit in the works yet? I hope.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 10:03 pm to VerlanderBEAST
People need to remember shite like this when they tell black people all they have to do is cooperate. Breaks my heart.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 10:14 pm to cas4t
goodness.
there's good police work. and then there's shite like this.
there's good police work. and then there's shite like this.
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