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re: I Refused To Help a Sr Manager from Another Department
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:39 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:39 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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So you're one of those "it's not in my job description" people.
So where is the accountability for the other manager? It sounds like a corporate culture of leaning on competent people to do the work for the special people.
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:39 am to littleavery1948
The "it's not my job" line usually doesn't sit that well with owners. However, I get where you are coming from. More than likely you were much more tactfull.
Don't think it would hurt to assist a bit if it doesn't take up a lot of your time and hurt you with your own workload. I do get your reluctance. If you help them and you end up at work late for a week or working on weekends to complete your own stuff... that isn't right and sucks. Not fair to the family.
Sticky situation.
Don't think it would hurt to assist a bit if it doesn't take up a lot of your time and hurt you with your own workload. I do get your reluctance. If you help them and you end up at work late for a week or working on weekends to complete your own stuff... that isn't right and sucks. Not fair to the family.
Sticky situation.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:39 am to Festus
The world needs mud-checkers, too.
Especially the corporate world...
Especially the corporate world...
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:39 am to Cuz413
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In reality, if the CFO is frowning on it, the future looks pretty dim there for you.
Not disagreeing with your point here, because its true. I think there is another side to this as well though, that isn't necessarily good for the OP either, but highlights a larger issue. CFO is frowning on this because they've been caught having a very poorly trained and capable department, including themselves. I've been heavily involved in a lot of this type projects over the years. They aren't one person jobs, so it is alarming that nobody else is capable of assisting here, especially when the person they are asking to assist, wasn't even in this emplyee's position prior. So, who is now in the OP's prior position that also isn't able to do this job?
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 9:43 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:40 am to littleavery1948
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False. I am at the same level; the CFO is NOT my boss so it's not insubordination. I have my department to take care of.
I was making a joke that you sounded like a woman.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:40 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:
Congrats on the $75k
You have no real responsibility, which is how you formulated this take
You couldn't be more wrong.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:42 am to N2cars
quote:
The world needs mud-checkers, too.
Especially the corporate world...
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:42 am to BluegrassBelle
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New to the position. There can be drastic differences from position to position in a company.
Again, there’s a happy medium between helping out as a favor to the boss (which could very well pay off well for you in the future) and being totally taken advantage of. Which is why I suggested helping with this project until the person gets their feet wet. But then setting those more rigorous boundaries if it continues.
This. It sounded like, at least from what the OP told us, that this doesn't appear to be a long term thing but rather an on-boarding type deal. If OP had said that it's been 6 months and he's still having to carry the load for this hire, I think you have a legitimate gripe but that doesn't appear to be the case. A C suite member asked you for a favor that would benefit the company and OP threw a temper tantrum instead of leveraging that opportunity to gain relationship equity with the CFO, all in the name of "it's not my job."
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:44 am to OysterPoBoy
quote:Cant take a joke. Refuses to help coworkers. Has no awareness of the repercussions of pissing off C-Suite leadership...this dude is DEF on the spectrum.
I was making a joke that you sounded like a woman.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:44 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Which was in my description under that. The CFO should tell the other manager they need to make some real effort, present their work, and if necessary, enlist the OP to help, ONCE.
But it's easier, and no need to be accountable in this world, to make OP do the work while the other manager leaves work early or some shite.
But it's easier, and no need to be accountable in this world, to make OP do the work while the other manager leaves work early or some shite.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:44 am to littleavery1948
Help Shalawnda out. She not good at math without her glasses.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:46 am to Cuz413
Agreed. Went back and read the OP again and realized that they weren't even in this employee's position before. They were a different position in the department, since this person that needs help replaced someone that retired.
So, now we have the Sr. Manager, whoever is in the OP's old position, and the CFO who can't figure this task out. God this department sounds miserable
So, now we have the Sr. Manager, whoever is in the OP's old position, and the CFO who can't figure this task out. God this department sounds miserable
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:46 am to Cuz413
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But it's easier, and no need to be accountable in this world, to make OP do the work while the other manager leaves work early or some shite.
We don't know that OP is being asked to "do the work" for the new hire. It at least was presented as a "can you help new guy get caught up to speed?" This, at least the way OP presented it, seemed like a relatively easy way to gain some relationship equity with the C Suite and instead, OP decided to plant his flag in the ground there and for what?
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:46 am to randybobandy
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:47 am to littleavery1948
Weird to me that the other senior manager volunteered you to the CFO as someone who could help them without checking with you first.
I’m surprised that this is such a clear cut question for most people here. I feel like I don’t know enough to say.
I’m surprised that this is such a clear cut question for most people here. I feel like I don’t know enough to say.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:48 am to littleavery1948
My guess...You were passed over for this job and harbor resentment. I'm sure it stings, but suck it up and prove yourself indispensable. If the other person is as incompetent as you say, things will work themselves out. Be an adult.
ETA: It's not like operations doesn't do quarterly forecasting, so it may be an excellent opportunity to collaborate with the finance department and have things go "your way" and flow seamlessly.
ETA: It's not like operations doesn't do quarterly forecasting, so it may be an excellent opportunity to collaborate with the finance department and have things go "your way" and flow seamlessly.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:50 am to Festus
The CFO of my former company allowed my lights to get turned off in my office in Metairie.
I sent a rough email to him and basically told him to get his shite together.
A VP called me from HQ in Alexandria, VA and told me I couldn't talk to the CFO like that.
3 months later I quit, and within a year I had all their business in the South. Six months after that they fired the CFO b/c he didn't catch a $2.6M embezzlement. Stupid frick.
That was 30 years ago.
They're gone and Im still hear.
Moral:
Don't frick with the hired help that are making it rain and just want AC.
I sent a rough email to him and basically told him to get his shite together.
A VP called me from HQ in Alexandria, VA and told me I couldn't talk to the CFO like that.
3 months later I quit, and within a year I had all their business in the South. Six months after that they fired the CFO b/c he didn't catch a $2.6M embezzlement. Stupid frick.
That was 30 years ago.
They're gone and Im still hear.
Moral:
Don't frick with the hired help that are making it rain and just want AC.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:51 am to HouseMom
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My guess...You were passed over for this job and harbor resentment. I'm sure it stings, but suck it up and prove yourself indispensable. If the other person is as incompetent as you say, things will work themselves out. Be an adult.
Seems like OP didn't count the costs. What if one day, a set of circumstances occurs and you need assistance of some kind and people remember that time you pulled the "it's not my job" card? I'm not saying do this new guys job for them indefinitely, but sometimes you have to weigh out it it's worth burning the relationship equity to make a point. Sometimes, it is worth it. This doesn't seem like an issue I would dig my heels in on though.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:51 am to OKBoomerSooner
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Weird to me that the other senior manager volunteered you to the CFO as someone who could help them without checking with you first.
Yea, this is where my gut is telling me this request is really about having the OP come in and hand hold through the whole project. If they were having issues, they could easily have just asked the OP for a meeting so they could discuss some issues with them and get some recommendations. That would be completely reasonable to do and OP would & should accomodate that.
The fact they went this route is a bit of a red flag for me here. There are a lot of better ways this should have been handled.
Posted on 6/20/25 at 9:51 am to littleavery1948
Have you told the CFO that you don’t work for him and don’t give a shite about his department?
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