re: I Refused To Help a Sr Manager from Another Department

Really depends on whether it will strain your current role and assurances that splitting your time doesn’t affect your current position and vertical movement.. flat out denying the help puts you in a worse spot than actually meeting with the CFO to understand the scope and attention you will need to divert along with expectations in the future. In that meeting you can tactfully discuss why someone in that position needs outside department help.. isolating yourself and brushing off a C-suite isn’t a good move

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable. Your company should hire better personnel that can handle their own job duties. How is it your problem that the Sr mgr is unqualified for the position they were hired?

Sounds like the “ very conforming” characteristic means it was a hire based on appearance rather than qualifications. Let this person figure it out for themselves if that’s the job the wanted.

You sound like a Boomer that has a wife that hasn’t given you a blow job in two decades.

Get off your high horse or retire.

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CFO is not my boss. I am a Sr Manager who reports to the COO. I am already in a leadership role. My boss says to do what I think is correct. I’m not going to get fired over this at all.

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You need to make a good case to your actual boss so he can present your thoughts on the matter when this comes up in the C-level leadership meetings. Someone is going to ask him why you're taking this stance and it needs to be a reasonable and understandable explanation.

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False. I am at the same level; the CFO is NOT my boss so it's not insubordination. I have my department to take care of.

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Then don't lie like you did in the OP and say you don't mind helping out from time to time when clearly you very much mind. Curious you chose not just outright say that part.

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Some people sing. Some people dance. My passion is mud checking

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and some people take pictures of the triggered from the bushes


#JustDoIt

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Am I being unreasonable?

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IMO, no

In reality, if the CFO is frowning on it, the future looks pretty dim there for you.


I can relate to your dilemma on so many levels. Most managers are only concerned with their next role and survival in a bullshite world. It's easier for the CFO to say for you to go do it than it is to be a real leader and tell the SR Manager they need to make progress before enlisting your help. Reminding the SR Manager that they chose that position and should know of the responsibilities when agreeing to it.

Were the forecasts done at least once without you in that department? Helping once, while still may be irritating, would be being the bigger person. Also, use that for leverage with the CFO for a one off bonus, or pay raise.

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This is why you have a shitty job

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I have an amazing job that I love. Work from home 100% and will never ever have to go back into an office unless I want to.

ETA: I have a job most in my profession can only dream of.

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Then don't lie like you did in the OP and say you don't mind helping out from time to time when clearly you very much mind. Curious you chose not just outright say that part.

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Im starting to get the impression the OP is on the spectrum and one of those difficult people to work with

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Except they're not new. OP said this person has been with the company for 10 years. So the question is if they were promoting from within, why did they promote someone who doesn't know how to do the job? Or why didn't the company have this newly promoted manager spend time training with the outgoing retiring manager? Longtime employees who are retiring usually give a fairly amount of notice for their intent to retire, so its not likely that the company only had 2 weeks to find a replacement and train them.

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New to the position. There can be drastic differences from position to position in a company.

Again, there’s a happy medium between helping out as a favor to the boss (which could very well pay off well for you in the future) and being totally taken advantage of. Which is why I suggested helping with this project until the person gets their feet wet. But then setting those more rigorous boundaries if it continues.