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re: I have a family member who does all of his “research” on YouTube & Facebook

Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10558 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Unfortunately, "I've done my research" no longer means "I dug through available primary and secondary sources until I was able to form an educated opinion on the subject" and instead means "I've listened to someone who says things that sound truthy to me, and I believe them".

I just go with the opposite of what the far left mainstream media and influencers say. I'll be right 80% of the time.
Posted by XanderCrews
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:32 pm to
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Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3592 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 2:43 pm to
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To be fair, that is not incredibly difficult from a lot of research media pundits do now. If you ever want to distrust the media, find multiple articles on something you have a lot of knowledge on. It is rare that those articles will be even 50% correct.


Michael Crichton coined that as the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.
Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5380 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:03 pm to
People who rely on YouTube and social media for news and knowledge are typically ignorant dolts. If you want true knowledge, you have to try to carefully identify the most credible, qualified sources and read those.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31345 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:56 pm to
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Michael Crichton coined that as the Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.

I'm glad I read down, because I was 100% about to post exactly this
Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
844 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 3:59 pm to
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It’s quite ironic how people who think they’re outsmarting everyone else are actually gullible, easily-manipulated fools most of the time.


I thought you were talking about your family member, not people who took the Covid vaccine?
Posted by Tigertittie
Member since Sep 2021
844 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:02 pm to
What's CWD?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
2745 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:09 pm to
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he’s really big on cryptocurrency, thinks 9-11-2001 was all a conspiracy covered up by the U.S. government, says ivermectin will “clean” COVID vaccines out of your blood, thinks all artificial sweeteners will make you gain weight and give you dementia, and thinks his Donald Trump memorabilia coins/mementos can be traded in at banks for lots of money


I see nothing false here.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1325 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:40 pm to
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available primary and secondary source


What, in 2025, is a primary source?
What is secondary?

Honest questions.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2096 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:41 pm to
Increasingly this is common. Sadly...humanity is not headed to a good place.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
64188 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:42 pm to
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he’s really big on cryptocurrency, thinks 9-11-2001 was all a conspiracy covered up by the U.S. government, says ivermectin will “clean” COVID vaccines out of your blood, thinks all artificial sweeteners will make you gain weight and give you dementia, and thinks his Donald Trump memorabilia coins/mementos can be traded in at banks for lots of money.


You just described like 80% of the posters on this site throw in aliens too
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
20728 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 4:55 pm to
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You just described like 80% of the posters on this site throw in aliens too


And ghosts. Approximately 39% to 62% of American adults believe in ghosts, with different polls showing varied results depending on the year and methodology.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31345 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 5:03 pm to
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What, in 2025, is a primary source?
What is secondary?

Honest questions.

It depends on the subject matter, but these terms have objective definitions that are unaffected by the year we find ourselves in.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15530 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 6:40 pm to
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What's CWD


Its a deer disease. Chronic wasting disease. Same type of disease as mad cow and scrapies.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
147748 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 6:46 pm to
I bet he could whoop your arse too
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1325 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:21 pm to
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It depends on the subject matter, but these terms have objective definitions that are unaffected by the year we find ourselves in.


Should be pretty easy for you to give an example then.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16279 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:31 pm to
My uncle does most of his research on xhamster. Got really awkward at a family event where he told my aunts neighbor he saw her in a porno. Was even weirder when he put his prosthetic leg on and walked away after dropping that bomb.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31345 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:44 pm to
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Should be pretty easy for you to give an example then.

Sure, I'll be your personal google for a second:

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Primary Sources are immediate, first-hand accounts of a topic, from people who had a direct connection with it. Primary sources can include:

Texts of laws and other original documents.

Newspaper reports, by reporters who witnessed an event or who quote people who did.

Speeches, diaries, letters and interviews - what the people involved said or wrote.

Original research.

Datasets, survey data, such as census or economic statistics.

Photographs, video, or audio that capture an event.


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Secondary Sources are one step removed from primary sources, though they often quote or otherwise use primary sources. They can cover the same topic, but add a layer of interpretation and analysis. Secondary sources can include:

Most books about a topic.

Analysis or interpretation of data.

Scholarly or other articles about a topic, especially by people not directly involved.

Documentaries (though they often include photos or video portions that can be considered primary sources).


But again, it ultimately depends on subject matter and context:


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Whether something is a primary or secondary source often depends upon the topic and its use.

A biology textbook would be considered a secondary source if in the field of biology, since it describes and interprets the science but makes no original contribution to it.

On the other hand, if the topic is science education and the history of textbooks, textbooks could be used a primary sources to look at how they have changed over time.

Posted by OGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:16 pm to
I have a 40+ year old nephew. He ran into some drug problems a number of years ago but is doing really good now. Got his life together. Full-time job. Visits the local jail with other church members, etc. Really thought he had come back to normal. Then at a family function he argued that the earth was flat, the moon landing was staged and that satellites do not exist. He was dead serious, too. I was dumb-founded.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 9:17 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58705 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:19 pm to
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I think I've seen that one. Apparently the fertile crescent is actually the Gulf of Mexico. Because it's actually crescent-shaped and fertile; not barren desert. Enjoyable theory but obviously ridiculous.

does that mean new orleans is the holy land?
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