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re: I don’t know how people can blow through their sick days so quickly

Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by Montezuma
Member since Apr 2013
3682 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:41 pm to
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We don’t even get sick days. You are expected to be a professional and can miss work as needed when you are really sick.


It aids the accountants who factor sick days into the workload. This folks who take a bunch of sick days and it wasn't prefacyored, doesn't help formulating a years-out budget plan.
Posted by Cali-to-Death Valley
SF Bay Area
Member since Dec 2004
799 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:53 pm to
Our retirement medical hinged on the amount of sick leave you had on the books at the time you retired. 8 hours= 1 month of retirement medical coverage. Yes there were people who still abused their sick leave and unfortunately, there were many of us who came to work no matter how sick we were (especially the last 5 years prior to retirement).
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20641 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:12 pm to
Yeah, your workload can easily be doubled when people off. That’s why there are stringent rules about when you can take off. People use sick days to get around those rules.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116444 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:25 pm to
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I use my sick days to have fun. I'll just come into the office sick since I'm probably not doing anything anyways and because I hate my coworkers.


Yep. Smart companies will just give you the entire set of days as “vacation days” and allow you to use them how you please. Saves a lot more of a head ache and reduces number of call ins.


I had a company refuse to pay me because I told them the day before that I would be using a sick day and wouldn’t be able to make it in. They said because I didn’t call the day of, they didn’t consider it a sick day so they can’t pay me. So I learned to say frick them and not tell them anything until 8:01 the day of.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4613 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:30 pm to
It's just McDonald's bro. They're probably taking off to study for the ACT. Change out the grease traps and worry about yourself.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:34 pm to
Some people have trouble making it into work for whatever reason. Sometimes it’s their own illness, sometimes someone else’s. Sometimes not illness related but something came up that’s beyond their control. Usually they just have a lot of baggage in general.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38658 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:43 pm to
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you do realize when you get laid off they no longer let you take those or cash them in right?


Praying that you're not on my payroll.
Posted by SirSaintly
Uptown, New Orleans
Member since Feb 2013
3187 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:45 pm to
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Yep. Smart companies will just give you the entire set of days as “vacation days” and allow you to use them how you please.


My company starts everyone off with 3 weeks PTO and it goes up from there. I've got 7 weeks PTO a year now. They're problem, though, is they want you to schedule all time off ahead of time. If you call in sick, they consider it an "occurrence". 3 occurrences and you get a written warning. Doesn't matter if I have 7 weeks PTO. frick that. I just go to work sick and hope I get everyone there sick. I haven't called in sick once in 10+ years either. I don't abuse sick days, but I'm a rarity.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:04 pm to
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So? What difference does it make?


Makes a lot of difference when I have to come in on my day off to cover for their lazy scamming asses.
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14359 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:08 pm to
You’re out 5 weeks for a knee op? Right
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104448 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:46 pm to
7 weeks, and I even went back sooner than my doctor wanted.

I did put in hours from home though.
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1347 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 5:59 pm to
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We don’t even get sick days. You are expected to be a professional and can miss work as needed when you are really sick.



I changed my policy to a similar model around 4 years ago. I don't keep up with sick days. If you need a day for sick / personal / whatever - take it. My other employees will cover for you and take care of your responsibilities. They police themselves. As soon as they found out someone was juking the system - they turned on them. The employee will straighten up quick or they're fired. When I had sick days, there were 11 employees. Changed policy and now there's only 8. Higher productivity with good / great employees and everyone ( company included ) makes more money and is happier.

ETA - I originally did 6 sick days, 5 personal days, and 5 vacation days for a total of 16. The people that are still here average 12 missed days per year. Those that were asked to leave averaged 19 absences per year.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 6:08 pm
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108894 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 6:40 pm to
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Maybe if Americans actually got enough vacation days like the rest of the world we wouldn’t have to use our sick days. frick off if you don’t like someone living their life and putting their job on the back burner. I work to live, not live to work.


Amen to that.

I used to feel bad about taking sick days when I was legitimately sick because there was always some old hag around shaming everyone if they did. But frick that. I earned those days through work/benefits. And right now the state is talking about cutting out retirees holding on to their sick days to cash out.

Absolutely no good reason to sit on those days if your arse is miserable at work, getting everyone else sick, and not getting shite done anyway.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53586 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:18 pm to
My only issue with people like that is how often that group will whine and bitch about how the system does them wrong when they don’t get special consideration when they legit get sick with no PTO left to cover it.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5923 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:28 pm to
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I’m 33 and dealing with sciatica since 2017. On January 5th my back gave out again and I’ve been in more doctors offices than customers offices since then. shite happens man.



Good luck. I'm 36 and in year 12 of misery.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:35 pm to
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Not really sure why we don't just label them all PTO.




That is what we do...PTO.

Although last year with some of the new sick time laws AZ passed they just started adding 40 hours a year of sick time in addition to the PTO time we already have.

And some people may have to use their sick time to care for family members who are sick(kids, elderly parents, etc).
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 7:38 pm to
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I just go to work sick and hope I get everyone there sick.


Wow...you are a shitty person. fricking stay home if you are sick. You ever think you "getting everyone sick" may have led to a coworker getting their child getting sick and then being hospitalized?

I hate people like you.
Posted by Erebus
Member since Jan 2019
574 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:03 pm to
People that come to work legitimately sick are assholes. People that call in sick regularily but are never actually sick) are bigger assholes. Playing hooky, nowadays referred to as a mental health day apparently, is ok a couple times of year as long as you’re not screwing over people that rely on you.

Government job, fast sick time accrual, rolls over annually, can be exchanged for years towards retirement. Hours over 40 go to comp time bank. Hooky days come from comp bank. Pay isn’t great, work isn’t appreciated, and literally everyone sucks. But hey, your tax dollars at work.

Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:19 pm to
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It’s all BS. They’re not sick. They just happen to call in on Fridays and some Mondays very blatantly.
I go to work when I’m sick and keep my sick days to hunt and fish.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34401 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 8:22 pm to
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I used to feel bad about taking sick days when I was legitimately sick because there was always some old hag around shaming everyone if they did. But frick that. I earned those days through work/benefits. And right now the state is talking about cutting out retirees holding on to their sick days to cash out.
Exactly. frick dem. Too often we put our jobs ahead of our families. Phuck work.
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