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re: I-10 Widening. Closing in on 1B
Posted on 3/21/23 at 4:54 pm to Sam Quint
Posted on 3/21/23 at 4:54 pm to Sam Quint
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I'm just glad that my children's children may be able to get through baton rouge with minimal traffic.
Here is the problem, they should have just gone straight through and widened that shite 10-15 years ago wehn they were working on it before.
Same with I12. It would all be done by now.
The slow roll will just be slow enough that it will never catch up with population growth.
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 5:02 pm to Cajun367
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I-10 widening work is going further east than originally planned
Where was it going before and how far east is it going now?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 5:18 pm to Sam Quint
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I'm just glad that my children's children may be able to get through baton rouge with minimal traffic.
Problem in Louisiana we expand roads in 2023 to 2006 traffic levels.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:33 pm to Jester
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depends on the city, parish, MPO area, roadway classification, traffic counts, ambient air temperature, air moisture, precipitation, etc. The state or town you live in doesn't have some miracle mill or asphalt that magically allows them to work faster. They are likely sequencing to allow for overnight completion of each roadway segment. Very common practice.
We’ve seen it all ladies and gentleman. Someone is defending Louisiana's ability to swiftly complete infrastructure projects!
Next we will here how safe all its major cities are.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:35 pm to Cajun367
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Kalivoda said the new cap is needed because the I-10 widening work is going further east than originally planned and because of inflation.
This makes no sense ?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:51 pm to Dixie Normus
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Louisiana government is incapable of forward thinking.
Sure they are, but there is no money in it.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:55 pm to Sam Quint
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I'm just glad that my children's children may be able to get through baton rouge with minimal traffic.
Not true.
BR has a penchant for delivering infrastructure built only to handle capacity from 10 years prior. No forward thinking.
There will still be awful traffic in BR for all your kids and their kids. This isn’t the silver bullet.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:01 pm to ibldprplgld
The only thing that would improve traffic and the roads is saturation bombing. Start from scratch.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:32 pm to dgnx6
100%. Hell it should have been designed that way in the first place. I will never understand why they thought necking I-10 down to one lane, in the largest city for 200 miles in either direction, was a good idea.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:35 pm to ibldprplgld
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BR has a penchant for delivering infrastructure built only to handle capacity from 10 years prior. No forward thinking.
A lot of the issue is political. The reality is that Louisiana has:
1. Too much state ownership of roadways,
2. Too many backlogged projects, and
3. Not enough money to go around.
It turns into a vicious cycle. Forward-thinking projects get backlogged because they can’t all get funded and there are immediate needs elsewhere. The roadways that we didn’t fund eventually go to shite anyway and have to be repaired, reducing funding available for new projects. So the forward-thinking projects get backlogged even longer.
If this goes on long enough the situation becomes untenable and funding finally gets released for the project. Now it’s been a decade and the needs have changed, so the original project scope is a half measure. But adjusting to that new reality requires more funding, which would just put it back in the backlog. So they move forward with what they have.
Nobody is happy in the long run but it’s OK politically as long as everyone is equally unhappy. One step forward, two steps back.
The only reason we are seeing all of this shite move forward now is the injection of federal highway funds. Eventually that will fade and we’ll be right back where we started.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:56 pm to Dixie Normus
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Louisiana government is incapable of forward thinking.
Proof
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I-10 widening work is going further east than originally planned
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:58 pm to Buryl
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100%. Hell it should have been designed that way in the first place. I will never understand why they thought necking I-10 down to one lane, in the largest city for 200 miles in either direction, was a good idea.
Yes, a lot of our traffic issues are due to the original construction, and the original layout of 10, 12, and 110.
It’s as if some intern did the original engineering.
First we have a major bridge to cross the river and we bottleneck to one lane where we construct an unneeded exit while we make a major offset so we can bisect a major lake.
Right at the offset we have a major spur to contend with that is larger than the lanes feeding the bridge.
Then instead of crossing the parish and bisecting major cross thoroughfares, they put exits at minor arteries like Washington St., Dalrymple, Drusilla, Essen (originally),
BR was doomed from day one.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:59 pm to jlovel7
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How fast are Louisiana cities at that simple mill and overlay work?
How many years have they been working on Sherwood out to Greenwell Springs?
Posted on 3/21/23 at 10:17 pm to lostinbr
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A lot of the issue is political. The reality is that Louisiana has:
1. Too much state ownership of roadways,
Thanks to Huey P Long. The state has recently established a voluntary road transfer program with the hope to transfer road ownership, maintenance, etc. back to the parish and local municipalities.
LA DOTD
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The State presently owns over 27 percent of the public road mileage in Louisiana; the national average is approximately 19 percent. Only nine states own a higher percentage of public road miles than Louisiana and only ten states have larger state highway systems.
An opportunity exists to significantly reduce the size of the Department of Transportation and Development (DOTD), rectify inequities in the distribution of state highway miles among parishes, and empower local governments through the right-sizing of the state highway system. Under this model, state government would be weakened and reduced whereas local government would be strengthened and have far greater autonomy.
The Road Transfer Program has been established as the means to right-size the State Highway System to achieve the national average of 19 percent state ownership of public road mileage. DOTD has identified approximately 5000 miles of state roads that do not fit the state's role in the highway network. The Program involves transferring these roads, with the money, to local governments.
Participation in the Program is voluntary. Roads will be repaired prior to transfer and the receiving local governments will be credited for 40 years of routine and capital maintenance which can be applied to any highway capital project(s). The Program may be appealing to those parishes and municipalities that have the capacity for additional day-to-day road maintenance but lack the resources for capital improvements. Local governments interested in participating need to contact their DOTD District Administrator.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:04 pm to Cajun367
I'm still confident this will be finished before Orange, TX finishes its I-10 work
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:05 pm to jlovel7
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How fast are Louisiana cities at that simple mill and overlay work?
They overlayed half of Southdowns in like 2 weeks.
Posted on 3/21/23 at 11:09 pm to Sam Quint
Yeah my mom said that in 72 so good luck, maybe your great grandchildren
Posted on 3/22/23 at 12:01 am to GeauxPack81
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I'm still confident this will be finished before Orange, TX finishes its I-10 work
That project is the epitome of "What the frick?!"
Posted on 3/22/23 at 4:53 am to Cajun367
Now you know why the former head of DOTD will likely be the next governor. Contractors love him.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 7:53 am to dewster
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Not a good sign for the outgoing leader.
who wants to be Governor. God help us if he's elected. Then again.... can't be worse than JBE's cocksucking arse.
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