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re: I-10 bridge replacement project in Lake Charles may get federal funding under Trump's plan

Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:20 am to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43084 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:20 am to
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Why does bridge need to be a highrise?


Climate change, rising sea levels.

Do you keep up?
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
10834 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:30 am to
That would be messed up if LC gets a new bridge before BR.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:35 am to
LC is about to be the driver of economic progress for the State, bro

Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 8:38 am to
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this is not true. DOTD is always inspecting that bridge

it has a bad rating b/c of how high it is and the angle of ascent/descent. an article with that ratings gets shared on social media every couple months as a scare tactic, but the bridge is not about to fall down


All correct. Add to it that the bridge width, i.e. lane width and shoulders also contributes to the low rating.

This radio article is a life-like version of "the sky is falling".
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58630 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:24 am to
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Federal money will be available to replace the I-10 bridge at Lake Charles. The issue is the state matching the funds needed to do it.

Lake Charles is the fifth-largest metro in the state, and all of the larger metros have their own needs, such as a new bridge for Baton Rouge, or I-49 through Lafayette.

Lake Charles doesn't have the political clout statewide to sway enough legislators to dedicate funding to replace the bridge.

The new bridge will not have to be nearly as high, as boat traffic there isn't what the current bridge was built to anticipate. But, there are numerous issues to contend with to replace that bridge, which we can get to in later posts, if anyone's interested.


did you even read the article? the I-10 bridge in Lake Chuck isnt a Lake Chuck bridge. It is an I-10 bridge that connects the East to the West. Being it is deficient it is much bigger than a 3rd BR bridge.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58630 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:25 am to
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Namely, they have to figure out how to build a 6 lane wide bridge while keeping the existing 4 lane bridge open for traffic and threading the line between railroad tracks, large businesses, and refineries.
That is not difficult. I have heard discussions on how to do it.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:26 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38722 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:48 am to
quote:

quote:
this is not true. DOTD is always inspecting that bridge

it has a bad rating b/c of how high it is and the angle of ascent/descent. an article with that ratings gets shared on social media every couple months as a scare tactic, but the bridge is not about to fall down


All correct. Add to it that the bridge width, i.e. lane width and shoulders also contributes to the low rating.

This radio article is a life-like version of "the sky is falling".




Exactly. Now about 15 years ago the bridge was in very bad shape as far as the shear forces on the bolts. The bolts were changed and the the steel was blasted and painted in 95% of the bad spots. The bridge is not in danger of falling. Its stupid people say this. Hell it just got approved to handle way more traffic than it currently is due to maintenance shutting down lanes on 210.

Anybody worried about that bridge falling and holds their breath when crossing is stupid or believe the scare tactics.


Now the westlake-moss bluff bridge looks scary as shite too with all of the concrete columns being cracked with holes through them. But it was designed as a draw bridge and is so over engineered for the amount of traffic it handles its not even funny.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:52 am to

Can you guys start with the easy projects first, like building a bridge of diversity, tolerance and togetherness?
Posted by VernonPLSUfan
Leesville, La.
Member since Sep 2007
17967 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:53 am to
There was a thread about the LC I-10 bridge a few years back. I asked the same question. Why is the bridge so fricking high? According to the responses is that when it was built back in the 60s/70s there was boat traffic going underneath. Not so much now. What is EDC?
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:55 am to
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Can you guys start with the easy projects first, like building a bridge of diversity, tolerance and togetherness?


SWB, K&B amd HH got all that under control. Don't worry about it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 9:55 am to
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Can you guys start with the easy projects first, like building a bridge of diversity, tolerance and togetherness?


You gonna knock down the bridge of tolerance?
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 9:56 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43084 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:00 am to
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You gonna knock down the bridge of tolerance?


Only after we build a bridge over troubled waters.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:03 am to


much funnier than my sarcastic post. well done.
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 10:04 am
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
88385 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 10:10 am to
If that bridge really is in that bad of shape that it needs to be replaced, then it makes the decision to waste tax dollars to build that ridiculous bridge in St Francisville even more perplexing
This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 10:14 am
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 11:59 am to
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Anybody worried about that bridge falling and holds their breath when crossing is stupid or believe the scare tactics.


Maybe so, but when the cross beams at the top are visibly twisted it doesn’t boost my confidence.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38239 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:18 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/14/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38239 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:18 pm to
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If that bridge really is in that bad of shape that it needs to be replaced, then it makes the decision to waste tax dollars to build that ridiculous bridge in St Francisville even more perplexing


your confusion is based on ignorance of why the Audubon Bridge is where it is:


quote:

The Audubon Bridge’s construction was part of the state’s Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development Program, which was established by Act 16 of the 1989 legislative session. The program is funded with a dedicated 4-cents-per-gallon, voter-approved gas tax.

Mallett said the TIMED Program included 16 specific projects aimed at spurring economic development in Louisiana, not traffic congestion relief.


LINK

I've been wrong on the origins of that bridge for years. While the LC bridge is more important, the Aud Bridge was a totally separate issue when conceived in 1989.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41386 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:33 pm to
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so you want to limit potential land that could be used buy new port investors with a low level bridge? Smart


It doesn't need to be that high. Only reason it was made that high was a political money grab involving a port that never materialized.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
41386 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:39 pm to
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I’ve always heard it will be an environmental nightmare if they ever try to do it. I also don’t feel the condition is as bad as the 3 year old radio station Facebook post that gets floated around from time to time.


Yea I remember hearing the soil below the bridge is polluted as hell and there are some serious concerns about disturbing it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 2/14/18 at 12:42 pm to
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I've been wrong on the origins of that bridge for years. While the LC bridge is more important, the Aud Bridge was a totally separate issue when conceived in 1989.



The politicians in New Roads and St. Francisville were more united in their support for a bridge and agreed on placement. They pushed for it since the 1960s.

Baton Rouge hasn't really found consensus on the general placement of their new bridge until recently - and it is still only narrowed down to two spots.
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