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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:41 am to
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:41 am to
my buddy in Tampa said Publix was out of water and Home Depot was out of plywood already
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:41 am to
This storm shows a large hurricane Force wind field. Like 100-120 miles end to end.

Just reading the kt readings from AF309.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71016 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:42 am to
quote:

You'll often see strong bands immediately outside of the eye wall. Sometimes those bands wrap all the way around and will close off the inner eye wall, choking it's access to moist air. The inner eye wall weakens, and eventually gets replaced as the outer band contracts. During that cycle, you're weakening the part of the storm with the strongest winds, so the intensity dips accordingly.

After the cycle you'll usually see am expansion of the wind field, provided the storm has enough time and favorable circumstances.


Thanks for that. Learning as well here.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

I know it's not a Nola type situation, but I don't know the lay out and topography of that city


Miami is 6.5 feet above sea level. Wouldn't take a lot of storm surge for it to become inundated.
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by RollDatRoll
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
12245 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:43 am to
quote:

also... don't see how they're playing the Bucs/Dolphins game in Miami on Sunday



Yeah, they are meeting this morning to discuss options. My guess is that it will be moved up to Thursday or moved to a different city.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:44 am to
quote:

a large hurricane Force wind field. Like 100-120 miles end to end.


how much of the 120 miles is the Major Hurricane field?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71016 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:44 am to
quote:

also... don't see how they're playing the Bucs/Dolphins game in Miami on Sunday



I cant imagine that would happen but you would think they will wait as long as they can to call the 25 fans coming and reschedule.


Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Yeah, they are meeting this morning to discuss options. My guess is that it will be moved up to Thursday or moved to a different city.

Superdome's open

and it just hosted a displaced game
Posted by PhillipJFry
Member since Sep 2016
1056 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:44 am to
Got damn. I am gonna head out and run some errands here soon. Gonna have to stop by and see I can find some water.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58991 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:45 am to
sticky this motherfricker
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Speed plays a huge huge roll. A slower storm is gonna have more time to push water where a speedier storm isn't gonna push as much.



Thanks for the assist.

The slower storm putting wind across the water for a longer period of time provides more overall force to build up greater momentum in the coming surge? I'm guessing that's the idea here.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:46 am to
96 knots and higher seems to be a bit smaller.




This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 9:47 am
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43290 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:47 am to
...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE IRMA HEADING TOWARD THE LEEWARD ISLANDS... ...PREPARATIONS SHOULD BE RUSHED TO COMPLETION IN THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA...
11:00 AM AST Tue Sep 5
Location: 16.8°N 58.4°W
Moving: W at 14 mph
Min pressure: 931 mb
Max sustained: 180 mph
This post was edited on 9/5/17 at 9:49 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61722 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:49 am to
Yep. The powers that be in the NFL have reached out to the super dome to discuss playing the game there
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60899 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:49 am to
Storm's still moving due west?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48478 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:50 am to
Models tracked farther west the last 12 hours.

Tampa may be fricked.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:51 am to
every time i read the W word, i want to punch a kitten.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43290 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:51 am to
000
WTNT41 KNHC 051446
TCDAT1

Hurricane Irma Discussion Number 26
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL112017
1100 AM AST Tue Sep 05 2017

Irma is an extremely impressive hurricane in both infrared and
visible satellite images. Experimental GOES-16 one-minute visible
satellite pictures show a distinct 25-30 n mi wide eye with several
mesovortices rotating within with eye. The aircraft have not
sampled the northeastern eyewall where the strongest winds were
measured shortly before 1200 UTC this morning, but the Air Force
plane will be entering the eye in that quadrant momentarily. A peak
SFMR wind of 154 kt was reported, with a few others of 149-150 kt.
Based on these data the initial intensity is set at 155 kt for this
advisory. This makes Irma the strongest hurricane in the Atlantic
basin outside of the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico in the NHC
records.

Irma is expected to remain within low vertical wind shear, a moist
mid-level atmosphere, and high upper-ocean heat content as it moves
west-northwestward during the next several days. These conditions
should allow the hurricane to remain very intense throughout much
of the forecast period, however, fluctuations in intensity are
likely to occur as eyewall replacement cycles take place. The NHC
intensity forecast is near the upper-end of the guidance and assumes
little overall interaction of Irma with the islands of the Greater
Antilles.

Irma continues to move westward at about 12 kt, and a strong
subtropical ridge centered over the central Atlantic should steer
Irma generally westward today. The ridge is expected to remain in
place over the western Atlantic during the next several days and
Irma is forecast to move west-northwestward throughout the most of
remainder of the forecast period. Around day 5, a shortwave trough
dropping southward over the central United States is expected to
begin eroding the western portion of the ridge, allowing a Irma to
gain some latitude. The new NHC track forecast is close to the
HFIP corrected consensus model and is very similar to the previous
forecast.

Since Irma is a large hurricane, users are reminded to not focus on
the exact forecast track since tropical-storm and hurricane-force
winds and life-threatening storm surge extend far from the center.
Residents in the Leeward Islands should complete their preparations
very soon as the weather will begin to deteriorate over the
easternmost Leeward Islands later this afternoon.


KEY MESSAGES:

1. Irma is a potentially catastrophic category 5 hurricane and will
bring life-threatening wind, storm surge, and rainfall hazards to
portions of the northeastern Leeward Islands beginning later today
and the Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico beginning tomorrow.
Preparations should be rushed to completion before the arrival of
tropical-storm force winds later today in the Leeward Islands and
tomorrow morning in Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico.

2. Hurricane watches have been issued for portions of the Dominican
Republic and Haiti, the southeastern Bahamas and Turks and Caicos,
and Irma could bring dangerous wind, storm surge, and rainfall to
those areas on Thursday and Friday.

3. Irma could directly affect the remainder of the Bahamas and Cuba
as an extremely dangerous major hurricane later this week. Residents
in these areas should monitor the progress of Irma and listen to
advice given by officials.

4. The chance of direct impacts from Irma later this week and this
weekend is increasing in the Florida Keys and portions of the
Florida Peninsula. However, it is too soon to specify the timing
and magnitude of the impacts. Elsewhere, it is too early to
determine what direct impacts Irma might have on the continental
United States. Everyone in hurricane-prone areas should ensure that
they have their hurricane plan in place.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 05/1500Z 16.8N 58.4W 155 KT 180 MPH
12H 06/0000Z 17.2N 60.3W 155 KT 180 MPH
24H 06/1200Z 18.1N 63.0W 150 KT 175 MPH
36H 07/0000Z 19.1N 65.9W 145 KT 165 MPH
48H 07/1200Z 20.1N 68.7W 140 KT 160 MPH
72H 08/1200Z 21.4N 74.0W 135 KT 155 MPH
96H 09/1200Z 22.7N 78.3W 130 KT 150 MPH
120H 10/1200Z 24.4N 81.2W 125 KT 145 MPH

$$
Forecaster Brown
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48478 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:52 am to
Yeah, me too.

Turn up the east coast and spin off into the Northern Atlantic.
Posted by Muice
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1268 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:52 am to
It doesn't take much more than a thunderstorm for South Tampa to flood as it is - can't imagine what a hurricane will do.
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