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re: Hurricane Florence - Catastrophic Flooding Potential

Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:09 pm to
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:09 pm to
Wouldn’t that incoming ridge in the western united states in that last graphic be a MAJOR prohibitor of 92L even lasting as a cyclone? Most of the models I’ve seen show that storm being ripped to shreds about the time it gets to Hispaniola.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21486 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:18 pm to
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Wouldn’t that incoming ridge in the western united states in that last graphic be a MAJOR prohibitor of 92L even lasting as a cyclone? Most of the models I’ve seen show that storm being ripped to shreds about the time it gets to Hispaniola.



Remember, we are getting way out in model land and the errors are getting to the point that guessing is just about as accurate. With that said, in this run there is an ULL over Louisiana in that last image. That might be one of the reasons we don't see a ridge build over the Gulf and out into the Atlantic as Florence starts to move out to sea. So with nothing to block 92L on this run, it eventually follows Florence out to sea.
Posted by Zephyrius
Wharton, La.
Member since Dec 2004
9567 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 6:29 am to
Euro still trending east coast landing for Florence 8 days out; 3rd run in a row with similar results.

It also has it kicking back out to sea after landfall looping clockwise...








Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:51 am to
Greenwood, ms has gotten 7 inches of rain overnight and expected to get 3-4 more.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21486 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:59 am to
Last two GFS runs get 92L into the Gulf but in the very long range. The GEFS ensembles show a pretty steady track westward.



Still have to get past Florence before getting a clearer picture of what might happen with 92L.

Florence continues to get blasted by shear this morning. A weaker system probably makes a harder west turn over the next day or so. The overnight models show basically every possible solution that one could think of

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:59 am to


Flo getting wrecked by shear and dry air this morning.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
30508 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:02 am to
Good!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:10 am to
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Greenwood, ms has gotten 7 inches of rain overnight and expected to get 3-4 more.



Told you some of the rainfall totals would materialize.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:11 am to
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Good


In this case, not so good. A stronger Florence has a better chance of curving out to sea.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51706 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:24 am to
I don't need the charts to know where Florence is going. I'm scheduled to fly out of JFK to DFW next Friday. It'll come close to, if not directly hitting the NYC area and I'll be stuck there.

Last year, My company stupidly planned their national sales meeting for the same week in Naples, FL. I predicted then that it would be hit with a hurricane. Yep. Sure enough. Irma.

So this year they moved it to New York. So I figure there's a 50/50 shot it'll climb up the coast and at least cause major airline traffic problems for days.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9526 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:30 am to
Appreciate the posts rds dc. My buisiness revolves around these storms, but damn I really don’t want to spend a month on the east coast. This thing goes east of Bermuda I think she stays offshore, see it happen every year.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21486 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:33 am to
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Flo getting wrecked by shear and dry air this morning


Not surprising at all given the proximity of that huge PV streamer, it was just a matter of time. It's still shocking that it strengthened so much yesterday. That will make for a great case study for some grad student.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12529 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:44 am to
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Greenwood, ms has gotten 7 inches of rain overnight and expected to get 3-4 more.



Basically everything along HWY 49 over to I-55 from about HWY 6 from Marks to Batesville down to HWY 16 from Yazoo City to Canton has gotten absolutely hammered. And it's still pouring south of 82.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:08 am to
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The overnight models show basically every possible solution that one could think of


So have gulf threat to east coast to going fishing?

Guess they can’t be wrong though
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102538 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:11 am to
I’m leaving Tuscaloosa headed back to the delta I assume hwy is clear all the way through?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 9:27 am to
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Not surprising at all given the proximity of that huge PV streamer, it was just a matter of time. It's still shocking that it strengthened so much yesterday. That will make for a great case study for some grad student.


Yeah, based on the shear maps, it wasn't in a favorable environment other than warmer SSTs.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 10:19 am to
What's the time frame for 92L to enter the Gulf? 12-13 days out?
Posted by Fat Harry
70115
Member since Mar 2005
2390 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 10:39 am to
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Basically everything along HWY 49 over to I-55 from about HWY 6 from Marks to Batesville down to HWY 16 from Yazoo City to Canton has gotten absolutely hammered. And it's still pouring south of 82.


Not good for cotton and rice farmers.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 10:49 am to
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Flo getting wrecked by shear and dry air this morning.


Goddamn, I love these newer satellite loops. The detail and time resolution is awesome.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 10:50 am to
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What's the time frame for 92L to enter the Gulf? 12-13 days out?


If it happens, it's 11 days out at the earliest.
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