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re: Hungary passes no-income tax law for mothers to boost birth rate

Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:51 pm to
Posted by rsbd
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:51 pm to
Just recruit these trap hoes…
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:52 pm to
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Overpopulation is a problem. Declining birth rates are just a challenge to overcome. Less people on this planet is a good thing


The world isn't overpopulated, good Lord. The bigger issue is financially secure, nuclear families are not producing children.
Posted by HeadCall
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 7:55 pm to
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The world isn't overpopulated, good Lord. The bigger issue is financially secure, nuclear families are not producing children.


We all know this is code for the world isn’t overpopulated, but minorities are the majority.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:02 pm to
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We all know this is code for the world isn’t overpopulated, but minorities are the majority.


What?

I couldn't give a frick less what someone looks like, I care what they can offer society. If you look at babies born to single parent households, the numbers at large are an utter disaster. Obviously that is macro vs micro, as on a micro level people born into that can succeed and people born to two parent households can fail. It's also not necessarily a minority thing, whites aren't exactly killing it in that category either.
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:06 pm to
These are usually the type of threads where I say some kind of tax incentive or government (that is, taxpayer) funded benefits to families having children would be a net positive. Trashy, unproductive people are already having kids. Might as well incentivize good people to have them too and try to tip the scales back in our favor
Posted by forkedintheroad
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:07 pm to
All I see here is a law designed to boost day care revenue.

Pass it for dads and now you're boosting birth rates.
Posted by TackySweater
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:07 pm to
He’s just an alter troll. He’s got like a thousand posts since he joined a month ago.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:07 pm to
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The only real way to combat this is to take away birth control and abortion. It would be a net positive on society as a whole to be honest. Women didn’t really start to get all uppity and forget their place until they had complete control of their womb


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The answer is simple. Quit pushing girls to have men’s lives instead of being wives and mothers. Either do this or eventually be conquered by third world people that don't send their wives to the office.


tOT, illustrating why women don't want to have children with you incels.. Never change.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:11 pm to
Hungary also has a several first-marriage benefits for couples.

Pro-family policy that recognizes the need for boosted birth rates within marriages in particular.

Nothing would be more beneficial to the US than policies that incentivize traditional marriages that produce kids.
Posted by Demonbengal
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:13 pm to
I don’t hate the idea. This alone won’t solve the problem, but it does help. Too many women work today which often means putting off family. Instead of child 1 being born when a woman is in her early 20’s it’s now late 20’s or older. Keeping up with the Joneses hurts too. Everybody has to have their kid in travel ball and competitive dance.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:16 pm to
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eventually be conquered by third world people that don't send their wives to the office.
the third world illegals that are in the USA aren’t married and have kids born here that are eligible for all sorts of social services

Their parents aren’t paying into that services they receive. That need to be rectified.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:17 pm to
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The world isn't overpopulated, good Lord. The bigger issue is financially secure, nuclear families are not producing children.


If I have any more, I won't be as financially secure.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:25 pm to
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Three children per couple is the absolute minimum required to sustain a population. That's right. If you have fewer than three children then you are a part of the problem, not a part of the solution.

The actual number is about 2.1. Since you can’t have a fraction of a baby then three for a couple does the trick. However, a society only has to average 2.1 to sustain.

The policy I’d like to see is a $20,000 tax deduction for having a child under five, and a $20,000 tax deduction for having three kids under 18. Then if you achieve the three kids deduction it is reduced by $10,000 for each kid who reaches 18. Max deduction under this plan is $20,000. If the mother doesn’t work the family still gets the deduction.
This post was edited on 3/16/25 at 8:26 pm
Posted by jmarto1
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:30 pm to
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Overpopulation is a problem


Mathematically, the earth's population can fit in the big island of hawaii
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:33 pm to
Thank goodness they aren't incentivizing the poors disproportionately like they do here in America
Hence why there are millions of baby mommas with no daddies around
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:33 pm to
Who gives a rats arse about Hungary?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:36 pm to
Hopefully it's not for single mothers because...yeah America proves that's a terrible precedent
Posted by Geauxldilocks
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:37 pm to
That will make an impact.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:39 pm to
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If people didn't have to worry about the price of daycare alone... we'd have a lot more babies. I'd have 2 more if daycare was covered. Hard to encourage people to trade children for poverty.


Your wife could stay home with the kiddos.

Mine quit after #2. She was a teacher and drug up.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:42 pm to
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The policy I’d like to see is a $20,000 tax deduction for having a child under five, and a $20,000 tax deduction for having three kids under 18. Then if you achieve the three kids deduction it is reduced by $10,000 for each kid who reaches 18. Max deduction under this plan is $20,000. If the mother doesn’t work the family still gets the deduction


I'm too lazy to do the research but my WAG is the number people of childbearing years who pay enough in taxes for that plan to be attractive is pretty small.
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