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re: How would our country be right now if 9/11 never happened?
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:06 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:06 am to Jim Rockford
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Jim Rockford
How would our country be right now if 9/11 never happened?
Or...Al Qaeda quietly keeps working on WMD'S and in 2009 a crude but effective nuclear device kills upwards of 20K in an an American city.
Interesting take. As someone working in that arena in the late 1990’s I can tell you that we were aware of terrorism and working on it but not the way that it is approached now. There wasn’t the urgency to kill those frickers that we have now. It is entirely feasible they could have quietly built a dirty bomb instead of flying planes into buildings and we would have never known until they used it.
Our capabilities then were 20% of what we have now.
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:12 am to Byrdybyrd05
Since 911 you need proper credentials to enter military bases. Had 911 not happened civilians might still be allowed on military bases without showing credentials.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:28 am to Byrdybyrd05
We may not be as politically polarized as we are. 9/11 changed us. Sometimes, I think for the worst. So many people out there now want to sacrifice personal liberty in the name of security. We will have neither.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:32 am to Byrdybyrd05
The Dixie Chicks would still be popular
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:35 am to Byrdybyrd05
We wouldn't have had the Iraq war and Bush wouldn't have gone down as one of the worst president's in history.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:38 am to Byrdybyrd05
There would be a lot less suicides in this country
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:44 am to Byrdybyrd05
Even if 911 didn't happen or was prevented, another terrorist attack would have taken its place at some point.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:46 am to Spankum
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well, we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, which pretty much put the middle east in check
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and also firmed up our oil supply for a generation.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 6:56 am to TT9
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Bush wouldn't have gone down as one of the worst president's in history.
Katrina still would have happened in 2005.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:07 am to Byrdybyrd05
Dang good question. Unfortunately my brain doesn't process what if situations like this well, but I believe what the posters that reply the outcome would have been more horrible are probably correct. A dirty bomb or something. It was a better world when the Muslims had to hire the Japs to do their suicide work.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:20 am to Broski
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That had nothing to do with 9/11
Wrong. Without 9/11 we would have not invaded. 9/11 opened the door. The administration took advantage of the political climate of the day. Without 9/11, the invasion never happens.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:28 am to GetCocky11
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Bush wouldn't have gone down as one of the worst president's in history.
Katrina still would have happened in 2005.
Not sure if serious. Bush is relatively blameless for the Katrina response.
Nagin and Blanco take the overwhelming amount of blame.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:41 am to Spankum
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firmed up our oil supply for a generation.
American dependence on middle east oil is one of the biggest lies in the world.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:44 am to Byrdybyrd05
The only outcome i feel confident in is Trump would never sniff the whitehouse
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:45 am to slackster
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Not sure if serious. Bush is relatively blameless for the Katrina response.
Yeah, I mean I agree with you. But, Bush still illogically receives much of the blame from a ton of people in this country.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:56 am to fallguy_1978
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The CIA might not be reading this.
They’d have just found another very critical reason to do so.
Big government is gonna big government no matter what, because the people are who chooses it for themselves every time they go to the poles and speak their mind.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:14 am to Spankum
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I'd still be using air travel pretty frequently. I seldom fly anywhere now.
My gosh air travel is painless, especially if you have Precheck and/or clear. This bullshite about flying is so much more of a hassle now is played out.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:17 am to tketaco
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would of
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Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:23 am to Ponchy Tiger
About the same, just without the reputational tarnish of losing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:32 am to Rza32
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Even if 911 didn't happen or was prevented, another terrorist attack would have taken its place at some point.
It goes all the way back to WII, with some roots before that even. Creating Israel and the Balfour declaration made it inevitable. If the US hadn't spent the last 70 plus years "nation building" (read meddling) in many countries around the world, then we might have a chance of not being here.
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